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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:28 AM
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Hunters have a successful weeklong hunt in OH
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Hunters killed 116,004 deer in the weeklong gun season that ended Sunday, state wildlife officials said Monday.

Wildlife officials said as many as 450,000 hunters participated in the gun season. One hunter was killed and 10 were injured.

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So I guess those claims that hunting is dangerous is a bunch of Hooey, if I can use your word, MrBenchley.

Rate of death among OH hunters: 0.22/100,000
Rate of injury among OH hunters: 2.2/100,000
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:36 AM
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1. If somebody getting killed is your definition of "success"
I'd hate to hear what you thought a "disaster" would be...
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:36 AM
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2. Spin, spin, spin....
you crack me up.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:45 AM
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3. How many were killed snow skiing?
or on weekend getaways

or drowned in the pool

or climbing their stairs

Gotta keep things in context.

Being alive is dangerous, and eventually it kiss us all.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:45 AM
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4. By your definition then...
...every day on the American Highway is an abject failure. All hospitals are miserable failures. Every workplace is falling apart and horribly dangerous.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:40 PM
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8. Do you have the same opinion of automobiles?
There's no need for them, either. We all know how successful public transportation is.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:12 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:02 PM
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26. Koresh forbid
we should have public transportation, fewer highway accidents and less pollution...

But then I don't know many people who spank their crank and pretend to be a noble sportsman when they drive to K-Mart, either...
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:53 AM
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31. Yeah! Public transportation!
Let's see that work in rural America. (You know, where the people who feed you live. That place with all the crops and animals.)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:59 AM
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33. Hey.....
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 07:33 AM by MrBenchley
Let's do everything in America the way yokels do.....Let's tramp arround with manure in our boots and say stuff like "Land o'goshen!"

By the way, don't look now, but most of our food comes from huge agricultural corporations, who depend on the illegal immigrants gun nuts routinely scream and rant about for labor.

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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:26 AM
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32. I have had two friends that were hunters killed
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 06:52 AM by demsrule4life
by drunk drivers enroute back home from a hunt. So I feel driving to and from a hunt is much more of a risk then the hunt itself.

To put a face to it the person on the right side of the photo is Bruce Averill, along with his wife Katie owners of one of the best borzoi kennels in the states. Bruce and a hunter friend of his was hit headon by a drunk driver driving home from a hunt. Bruce was trapped in the van he was driving and burned to death. Why don't you anti's drop a line to Katie and ask her what is more dangerous. I'am sick of antis acting like the only people killed in accidents are those accidents that involve firearms.

http://www.geocities.com/khanzadeborzoi/home.html
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:01 AM
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34. And I'm Getting a Little Sick.......
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 08:02 AM by CO Liberal
...of people who put out the impression that somehow a person is more noble if they have a gun in their hands.

What happened to your friends is tragic. But it does nothing to justify a pro-gun position.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:48 PM
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47. The wolf is a much more noble animal
than the lamb.
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:46 AM
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5. Another question
How many of the injuries are nothing more than twisted ankles from walking on uneven terrain?

Would some people here call those firearm injuries since the person was holding a rifle when they twisted their ankle?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:48 AM
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7. The Fed would.
They use the same logic when talking about Drunk Driving.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:47 AM
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6. It's good to see they got a good hunt in.
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 08:50 AM by DarkPhenyx
Bambi is pretty good eating. It should also go a long way toward helping to prevent the spread of CWD and starvation death among the deer population.

<on edit>

Hunting is no more dangerous than 100's of other recreational activities we participate in. Are you grousing about the death, or are you just anti-gun and anti-hunting?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:48 PM
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9. Does That Include The Shootings Along The Interstate??
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:51 PM
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10. Was that a joke?
Or do you take pleasure in making light of people being killed by some whacko?

Let's try to stay on topic, eh?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:53 PM
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11. Someone Is Apparantly Conducting a "Hunt" Along the Interstate
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:03 PM
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12. Don't lump that piece of shit among the rest of us
That's quite a stretch, CO.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:07 PM
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13. He or She Had a Gun
That in effect lumps him or her in with all gun owners until he or she is apprehended.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:09 PM
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14. But not all hunters use guns.
Your logic is severely lacking, CO.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:11 PM
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15. I'm Not Gonna Get Drawn into a Battle With You, Superfly
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 03:13 PM by CO Liberal
From your original post - emphasis mine:

Hunters killed 116,004 deer in the weeklong gun season that ended Sunday, state wildlife officials said Monday.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:13 PM
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18. Fine. But I am not going to allow you to
paint your broad stereotyping strokes without a fight. Them days are over.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:09 PM
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45. OK.....
Then get your pro-gun friends to knock off the slanderous posts about Sarah brady, Dianne Feinstein, Rosie O'Donnell, etc.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:13 PM
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46. You have got to be kidding me...
they are the de facto spokespeople for the movement to restrict the RKBA!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:13 PM
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17. Perhaps it's just a "sportsman"
with "a viable and beneficial means of controlling swelling populations"...
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:14 PM
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19. Stay on topic.
...
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:27 PM
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20. I Think We ARE On Topic
from www.dictionary.com. Emphasis mine.

* * * * *

hunt ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hnt)
v. hunt·ed, hunt·ing, hunts
v. tr.

To pursue (game) for food or sport.

To search through (an area) for prey: hunted the ridges.


To make use of (hounds, for example) in pursuing game.

To pursue intensively so as to capture or kill: hunted down the escaped convict.

To seek out; search for.

To drive out forcibly, especially by harassing; chase away: hunted the newcomers out of town.

v. intr.
To pursue game.

To make a search; seek.


n.
The act or sport of hunting: an enthusiast for the hunt.

A hunting expedition or outing, usually with horses and hounds.

Those taking part in such an expedition or outing.

A diligent search or pursuit: on a hunt for cheap gas.


* * * * *

hunt·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hntr)
n.

One who hunts game.

A dog bred or trained for use in hunting.

A horse, typically a strong fast jumper, that has been bred or trained for use in hunting.

One who searches for or seeks something: a treasure hunter.

Hunter green.


So it seems that whoever is shooting up the interstate could be considered a hunter, in the broad sense of the word.


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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:42 PM
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21. Nope, you are not.
This is a thread about hunting wild animals as sanctioned by the State governement of Ohio. This is NOT a thread about some murderer shooting humans.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:58 PM
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24. No - It's About People Shooting Things
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:03 PM
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27. CO, I posted the original story
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 04:04 PM by Superfly
it's about the successful hunt that occured in OH recently. It is NOT about a crazy person killing people.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:06 PM
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28. Apparantly.....
....that crazy person along the interstate has been successful, too - right?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:10 PM
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29. The score is one each...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:51 PM
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22. Exactly so...
Furthermore, how do we know that this isn't some "sportsman" who doesn't think killing deer gives him enough of a kick anymore?

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:53 PM
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36. And that is also in very poor taste
Keep it up. You and CO are on a roll.

:toast:
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:25 AM
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30. Apples and oranges, CO
People abuse opoid derivative analgesics (such as morphine) - let's ban it

People assault and kill with cars - let's ban them

People kill one another with knives - let's ban them (that's how the Chinese got chop sticks)

People fly airplanes into building and kill people - let's ban them

People drown people - let's ban liquids

People commit arson, often resulting in the death of innocents - let's ban fire

People kill people with blunt instruments - let's ban hammers, baseball bats, pipe, tire irons, etc.

People strange or beat people to death with their bare hand - let's amputate all hands (feet, too for the karate and kickboxing crowd)

Are you getting my point yet?

On topic. A great hunt. Sadly marred by one death and a few injuries. My heartfelt condolences to the survivors of the hunter that was killed and wishes for speedy recoveries to those injured.





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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:01 PM
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37. I See It as Apples & Apples
Most hunters hunt wild game.

The asshole on the Ohio interstates is hunting people.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:04 PM
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38. No, he is murdering people.
And your attempt to equate the two is despicable.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:22 PM
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39. I Thought You Weren't Going to Be Responding to Me Any More....
...after the editing incident of yesterday....
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:22 PM
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40. Um...I never said that...
unless you don't want me to.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:24 PM
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41. And if you did you can always edit it
and deny you ever did...
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:26 PM
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42. You really crack me up
That's all you have on me and that's all you'll ever have. One word...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:28 PM
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:29 PM
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44. I never did get pissy, as you put it.
It was a non-issue that you refuse to drop.

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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:03 AM
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48. If that is the case
You have the worst case of optical rectitis I've ever encountered.

How low can you sink? Equating a legal activity with murder is lower than whale shit.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:52 PM
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35. As an expert in poor taste, I have to hand it to CO on this one
That was in REALLY poor taste. Darkly humorous, but very poor taste.
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