Shot over a tattoo

[MichaelHarris]

"A 15-year-old boy was in custody Thursday, charged in the Monday shooting death of a 36-year-old Galveston man outside a Texas City apartment, police said."

http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=92d291258c5c36f3

A later story said the man was shot because of a tattoo, "TEXAS CITY — Family members and friends of a man who was shot and killed outside of a Texas City apartment complex said a tattoo from a former gang affiliation might have led to his death."

http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=dd02842aec55e207

[rd_kent]

1. "gang related", as per the article. Just criminals doing criminal things.

[MichaelHarris]

2. yup

the one guy had left the gang, I think that's why they shot him.

[rd_kent]

3. That sucks. Oh well, sometimes it happens when criminals do criminal things.

[MichaelHarris]

4. I agree

fuck innocent people and those trying to change their lives for the better.

[rd_kent]

5. Not sure I agree with you there. I would never condemn the innocent like that.

But at least we all now know what your feelings about innocent people are....

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

7. Glad we have your opinion on the record. Pitiful really.

[Euromutt]

29. No, let's just lay the blame where it belongs

In this case, with the 15 year-old gang-banger using an illegally possessed firearm to carry out what looks suspiciously like a gang hit, and the motherfuckers higher up in the gang who gave the kid the gun and pointed him at the late Mr. Briscoe.

It might noted that Mr. Briscoe was not actually "shot over a tattoo"; he was shot over what that tattoo signified, and there is a difference.

[TheWraith]

40. Legalize drugs = starve the gangs.

You don't fight a fire by giving it plenty of air and fuel, which is what our current drug policy amounts to. If we want to stop gang warfare in our cities, we need to cut off the funding of the gangs by eliminating the black market that lets them thrive.

[benEzra]

6. And this relates to gun ownership by noncriminals, how?

Look, we all AGREE that criminals and gang members shouldn't be allowed to have guns, OK? The problem comes when you want to treat 80 million lawful and responsible adults as criminals or gang members because you disagree with our choices.

[Katya Mullethov]

9. OHH MY ....... listen to Mr Goody Goody Two Shoes

You act like you never shot anyone over a moko .

It's a part of growing up .

[Remmah2]

23. That or your mother's tramp stamp.

:)

[DonP]

13. Easy answer!

To people like Michael Harris and his ilk, there is no discernible difference (morally, ethically or legally) between an underage ex-gang member being shot by another underage criminal and a law abiding 57 year old CCW holding woman in Naples Florida protecting herself from a home invader.

They're all dangerous gun nuts being made more evil and dangerous by that Gun Chi, at least to some simple minded folk.

The truly funny part (funny ha ha, not funny ironic) is they don't realize how silly it makes them look.

They also don't catch on to the fact that they slipped out of the mainstream on this issue somewhere around 1995. But I'm not going to point out how silly they look.

[Glassunion]

8. Not so clear cut

Clearly tattoos emboldened the 15 year old victim to shoot that man.
Sacrosanct proliferation of tattoos should turn off the spigot.
The first amendment does not protect tattoos, as they were not in prominence in 1789.
Society placed the gun in that poor child's hands and if not for the abiding love for guns in this nation, this child would have never been forced to be a victim.
Guns clearly settle grievances.
Grievances are parallel to kiddie porn.
Kiddie porn = tattoos.


Does that just about cover it?
:sarcasm:

[burrfoot]

10. Love it!

Sending you the bill for my now coffee splattered keyboard, Glass!! :rofl:

[Glassunion]

14. Sorry about the keyboard...

But that would be considered an act of God. I was listening to Clapton while typing.

[slackmaster]

11. I'm not sure that "Sacrosanct proliferation of tattoos" covers "Easy availability of tattoos"

Or "A culture that glorifies body alterations", but you do make a good point.

[Glassunion]

15. But if you turn off the spigot

And completely stop the manufacture of ink you will slowly start to notice a decline in tattoo manufacture. Thus reducing crime and having a positive impact on the unhealthy abiding love of tattoos in this country. And as manufacture stops, I will have personally increased the value of your tattoos... Think flintlocks.

[slackmaster]

18. We could also require all tattoo needles to be regulated, and ban fully automatic ones

Nobody needs an Assault Tattoo Needle that can poke 3,000 holes per minute, or one with a high-capacity ink cartridge.



"Ink Hoses" should be banned.

[Glassunion]

21. I'm thinking microstamping...

[slackmaster]

27. You know, the Nazis had little numbers...

...that they forcibly tattooed onto the Jews.

[Glassunion]

30. (EDIT: comment in poor taste)....

Forget I said anything...

[Euromutt]

32. Hey, they tattooed themselves, too

Most members of the Waffen-SS had their blood group tattooed on the underside of their left arm, near the armpit. It was supposed to be applied during basic training by the training company's medic, so personnel who transferred to the SS from other branches of the armed forces (and had thus already completed basic training) did not have them, or guys who happened to be on compassionate leave on the day the tattoo was applied, for example.

[Katya Mullethov]

19. Unintended consequences

All sales of black shoe polish would have to be face to face or there would be a lot of ink prercursors just floating around unchecked .

[Euromutt]

28. If tattoos are outlawed, only outlaws will have tattoos, you pinko!

In all seriousness, that's not actually far from the truth. Look up Russian prison tattoos sometime, particularly the method of application. Ink is made from, among things, urine and soot, and tattooing tools include needles and short lengths of guitar string jury-rigged to an electric shaver.

[Glassunion]

31. Sacrosanct proliferation...

Sooner or later all of those with tattoos will be dead, thus solving all of our problems with violence in this country.

[Euromutt]

35. Okay, I'm convinced

I can't argue with that level of talent for parody.

Did I mention it's nice to have you on board?

[Glassunion]

38. Thank you

We occasionally need a little levity around here.
Been a lurker here for many years. Then just decided to pony up, pay a few bucks and start typing.

[east texas lib]

22. If not, it's a damned good start.(nt)

:thumbsup:

[Glassunion]

25. One problem...

I have tattoos. I'm just perpetuating the violence. I would kill myself, but it is against the law... Effed by my own catch 22.

[east texas lib]

26. Perhaps you could write yourself a long, flowery letter of apology...

Then graciously accept it (in the spirit of non-violence of course!).;)

[SteveM]

12. If folks shot each other over tats in Austin, we would disappear in a mushroom cloud. nt

[DonP]

16. Is this another "White Supremacist" shooting like the last one? Ntxt

[rd_kent]

17. Not sure, is that what MichaelHarris is? He certainly is a flamebaiting, misleading poster.

That much is for sure.

[slackmaster]

20. There will always be SOME doubt in my mind

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[DrCory]

34. Regardless, Your "Mistake" Begs the Question...

Why did you assume the fellow in the thread you authored was white?

Oh, and a friendly word of advice, after that debacle I wouldn't be calling any one else a "dolt".

[DonP]

36. You refer to an African American as a White Extremist and I'm the dolt?

Sorry if I misrepresented your knee jerk, racist stereotyping.

I stand corrected, Everyone, listen up, the Black guy that so upset Michael Harris in the other post was a "White Extremist", not a White Supremacist.

Feel better now?

[rd_kent]

37. Who is the dolt here? YOU called a black man a white extremist!!!! FAIL!!!!

[Artie Bucco]

39. That would be kind of funny

Running street battles in Austin with different hipster cliques and bands fighting over coffee shops and American Apparel stores.

[gorfle]

24. As per usual, firearm murderer probably had criminal background

Since the youth was affiliated with a gang, one can assume he has a criminal, probably drug-related, criminal background.

I'm assuming the weapon used was a handgun, which would be illegal for a 15-year-old boy to carry.

So, we have another criminal committing murder.

Please do not use this as an excuse to go after the law-abiding.