NM: Bill to allow guns in restaurants clears committee

[GreenStormCloud]

Bill to allow guns in restaurants clears committee

http://newmexicoindependent.com/45386/bill-to-allow-guns-in-restaurants-clears-committee

On Wednesday, a House committee voted to advance Senate Bill 40, sponsored by Sen. George Munoz, D-Gallup, which would allow those with a concealed carry license to bring their guns into restaurants or bars that serve liquor. It’s a measure he tried to pass last session–but back then the bill applied only to bars.

The Senate Corporations and Transportation committee passed the bill by 8-1 Monday,

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More at link

It is good to see a Democrat pushing this bill.

[anonymous171]

1. Yes it is. nt

[SoCalNative]

2. Good to know

that when that waitress is a bit too slow or your order gets messed up that there will be idiots with firearms willing and able to take care of things their way.

[GreenStormCloud]

3. Only in your projectionist fantasies. N/T

[katandmoon]

6. What IS the purpose of carrying a gun into a bar, then? Seeme to me you're the one with fantasies.

[GreenStormCloud]

9. I don't go to bars.

I do go to restaurants. Last night was my wife's birthday. We went to a nice restaurant, and I was armed, as usual.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

30. Do you mean what is the purpose of carrying a gun into a restaurant?

[SoCalNative]

26. You obviously don't live in a city

where insane legal gun owners will routinely shoot someone because they're driving too slowly or look at them a little funny, or even dare to call them on their poor driving skills.

[GreenStormCloud]

27. Dallas isn't a city?

BTW - It is very rare that a legal gun owner will do the things you describe. When caught and arrested, they almost always have prior police records.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

31. That's odd statistics show the vast majority of those are criminals with firearms.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasies though.

[pipoman]

35. No, and neither do you...

[PavePusher]

41. Routinely? Really?

Got numbers for that? What's your definition of "routine", because I don't think it means what you think it means....

[rd_kent]

44. You've been playing too much Grand Theft Auto!

[SteveM]

48. Do you live in that city? Where is it? Do you have "routine" data? nt

[slackmaster]

51. What a bunch of baloney

You don't live in a city like that either.

[katandmoon]

5. Naw, they'll be too busy fondling their guns. That's what it's all about.

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[PavePusher]

22. Got video?

Otherwise, it never happened.

[Katya Mullethov]

38. Some people like patchouli

Well, I get off on black powder and find no relief with any other aroma therapy I have tried . Normally thick skinned , I find the constant attacks on my sexuality to be insulting and at times threatening . Only a person filled with the blackest of hates could seek to deprive me of the basic human right of getting a nut .

[PavePusher]

42. Whenever I smell patchouli, I think...

"Ah, someone who doesn't know how to wash."

Hate that stuff.

[rd_kent]

39. Typical gun grabber nonsense. Do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

[SteveM]

49. This, from someone who is grabbing at 'em! nt

[proteus_lives]

12. Ignorance.

But that's not unusual from a grabber.

[slackmaster]

14. No, probably just projection

People who say ridiculous things like that are attributing their own feelings and fears to other people.

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[PavePusher]

21. Just like everywhere else it's allowed, right?

You do have stats to back up your asinine assertion, right?

You're not just here to be a jerk, right?

Go away, or we'll tell your mother you're on her computer again.

[SteveM]

47. Could you please provide examples of this. Thanks in advance. nt

[katandmoon]

4. Wonder how much he clears from the NRA.

[rrneck]

7. No more than you. nt

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[pipoman]

36. Wow, what a revelation

the mantra is usually that NO Democrats EVER are supported by the NRA...we may be making progress toward the truth here..

[SteveM]

50. Gun-controllers clear quite a bit from the NRA...

Anti-gun editorial cartoonists are paid royalties by the NRA for reprint in their -- ahem -- house "organs." So, I guess "grabbing" can be okay when it comes your way!

[Quasimodem]

8. Well, I for one ...

Won’t be satisfied until we’re allowed to carry concealed weapons in churches and opium dens.

[MadMaddie]

10. Isn't Phoenix or some other AZ city talking about cutting 200-400

police officers?

[Euromutt]

32. Arizona is not New Mexico

I know they're adjacent, but it makes a difference. Besides, even if it were, say, Albuquerque, what does that have to with the topic at hand?

[MadMaddie]

40. Euromutt I was half paying attention

to what I was writing but my question would be if it were the same state(it's not) if you cut police and allow more people to carry guns in public places you don't think that is setting up a bad situation?

[PavePusher]

43. Not according to the trends in crime statistics.

http://www.justice.gov/

[msongs]

11. what about our right to carry guns on airplanes and at high school? nt

[slackmaster]

15. Those rights have been lawfully curtailed through due process

I assume you've heard of that.

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[rrneck]

24. Oops, wrong spot. nt

[PavePusher]

45. Non-disqualified legal adults?

No problem. Why not?

[SteveM]

52. Well, you've always had the "right" to carry on airplanes...

Though not a "right," you must carry them in order to get them through the check-in process; same as it ever was.

As for schools, the only ones carrying are the occasional psychos. But they don't need a law or right. Right?

[proteus_lives]

13. I hope it goes all the way through.

:thumbsup:

[Historic NY]

20. I pity the cook.

[GreenStormCloud]

23. Why? We can do that in Texas and we haven't been shooting any cooks. N/T

[Historic NY]

25. just don't send the food back more than once.....

:hide:

[GreenStormCloud]

29. Send the food back? I haven't done that in about 15 years.

And then it wasn't in Texas. I don't remember where it was, just that it wasn't Texas.

The food last night was great.

[friendly_iconoclast]

28. "OMFG, THERE'LL BE BLOOD RUNNING IN THE BOOTHS AND AT THE TAKE-OUT WINDOWS!"

Some folks are just too, too excitable for their own good.....

[Euromutt]

33. I'm of mixed mind about this

I live in Washington state. Here, it's illegal to carry in any establishment or section of an establishment that has been declared to be off-limits to persons under 21 by the state Liquor Control Board. That means bars, "lounges" (bars attached to restaurants), and bar areas of restaurants). It is legal to carry in establishments which incidentally serve alcoholic beverages but whose primary purpose is to serve food. Personally, I think that's a reasonable way of organizing things: ban guns from establishments that are primarily for drinking, but permit it in dining establishments that have a wine list.

As a result, I'm fine with allowing guns in restaurants, but I'm leery about permitting them in bars. I don't go to bars much any more, but when I do, I'm certain to drink a fair bit, and that means I don't bring a gun. It's been a long time (over ten years) since I got belligerently drunk, but in the event that it does happen again, I don't want to have a weapon on me.

[benEzra]

34. I like Florida's rule...

Carry is allowed in establishments that derive less than 51% of their income from alcohol sales, and in restaurants with bars, you can't sit at the bar.

Of course, the gun-control lobby would still be just as hysterical about such a bill, so perhaps the bill's authors figure there is no point in making concessions in an attempt to assuage their ostensible "fears".

[one-eyed fat man]

37. Here in Kentucky the law is the same.

You can carry in restaurant that happens to serve alcohol, but not in a saloon or the bar area of a restaurant. I have never been much for drinking, so abstaining from alcohol while armed has never been a problem for me. There are sufficient laws, I think, covering ill-advised combinations of drunks and dangerous machinery.

DUI convictions here are cause to deny or revoke a carry permit. That strikes me as prudent. If an individual is not personally responsible enough to not drink and drive, they are probably not responsible enough to keep from drinking while armed either. On the other hand, I am opposed to blanket prohibitions which only penalize those who are responsible and are universally ignored by the irresponsible.

[mindwalker_i]

46. Elf

Shot the food!