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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:01 AM Original message |
Killer teen jailed 12 years for murder of chef Daniel Owen (Australia - No guns = No safety) |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Sure is. The perp may have gotten hurt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. Gee, thank Gawd those US states managed to become completely free of murder... |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. At least |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. What's a "gun controler" person? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Some one who |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. So? You proved you're qualified. You got your gun. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. If you think |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Apology accepted. Try to remember there usually IS such a thing as a truly moderate position. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. The murder rate in the US is 5x what it is in Australia |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Don't exagerate...our homicide rate is only three times as much! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Wikipedia shows 4.5:1 |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. That very much depends how you define "dangerous" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Good point about Pakistan. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. US violent crime is down. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, your argument fails to isolate the effect of gun ownership. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Notice what you said. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Not true re robbery.. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Violent crime rates have fallen in general in the US |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Data only runs to 1997 (for counties) / 1999 (for states) |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. The percentage of nonfatal violent crime involving firearms is also down |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Firearm-related non-violent crime isn't up |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Crap, that should read "firearm-related nonFATAL violent crime" |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. There is a difference between the gun culture and the violent criminal culture. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You have confused self-defense with social policy. Corrections: |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. +1 |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Ah your |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. ah, my |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Just wondering |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Glad you are in good spirits! Where have you been? Doing well? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I have been sick sick sick |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah I |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-22-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Two weeks? As you get older, 2 wks expands mightly in the continuum... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-22-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. if I were past 60 |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. the magical gun force field apparently doesn't work down under (ed.) |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I wouldn't sweat it |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. how nice of you |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Why Iverglas |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. Only 12 years for murder? |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Show some optimism , call it a jobs program |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-10 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. HM Spokesperson-General has spoken for *all* Australians, so it must be true! |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. You should understand that we don't give a damn if you laugh or not. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. You've got two different metrics for media reports of violence, don't you? |
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