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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:09 AM Original message |
Should Open Carry of Guns Be the Law of the Land? (Poll at link) |
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nevergiveup
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. The only way you could get into my place of business |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. That's your right. |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. It is nice to hear that in these difficult economic times... |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Apr-18-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. Do you refuse police in your business? |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
104. Just post a sign banning such. What's the big deal? nt |
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mediaman007
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yup! We should ride horses, round up cattle, tip our hat to the school marm, |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. A well regulated militia... |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. So you're saying all males between 18 and 45 can carry? |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. You are making the very common, if not deliberate, mistake of conflating |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I understand |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Well regulated means "functioning properly." |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Try the "unorganized militia" of the U.S. Code |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Apr-18-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
99. Where does the US code speak of this "unregulated militia"? |
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Captain Hilts
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. +1. Join a well-regulated militia. nt |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Already there |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
106. See #36 & #39. Hey! You may be in one yourself! nt |
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Llewlladdwr
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. You don't need a gun in the Starbucks? |
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cowman
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. There's that |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. At least until several bad guys decide to enter and start shooting |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. ...is only one reason for owning firearms. I don't "need" a gun in Starbucks... |
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shedevil69taz
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Sun Apr-18-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. It is also about to be forced upon |
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jazzhound
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Sun Apr-18-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. And then a percentage of the U.S. population will be *forced* to take a good |
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shedevil69taz
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Sun Apr-18-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Many gun controllers remind me a lot |
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AlinPA
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. Pierce limits it to "properly holstered handgun in plain sight". He doesn't say why you can't carry |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. I have no problem with a slung long-gun. |
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Bonhomme Richard
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think CT has it right. |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
25. So basically |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Doesn't work for me |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. And thus, society is relegated to the desires of the most sensitive among us. |
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Bonhomme Richard
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
46. I think it provides a nice balance. It doesn't...... |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. So, Civil Rights, subject to peoples irrational fears. |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
107. You are advocating abuse of the law based on someone's "feelings"... |
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msongs
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. kids at elementary school should be allowed to carry guns, 2nd amnd. doesnt say adults only nt |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Only if they are part of a well-regulated militia! |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Apr-16-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
81. You have already lost that battle. Heller was decided a couple of years ago. |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
109. Bzzzzt! Another poster defeated by his/her self. nt |
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Deleted message |
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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safeinOhio
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
9. A lot of those open carry people in California do |
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X_Digger
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I wear obama gear to TX Gun shows. :P n/t |
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safeinOhio
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. any reaction? |
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X_Digger
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Not these days. |
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jazzhound
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
43. "I wear Obama tee shirts to guns shows." |
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onehandle
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. Looks like this poll has been posted on every internet gun site in existence. |
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marcus5aurelius
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Please help me understand |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Do you REALLY want to live in a society... |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Strawman. |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Not so much straw man as red herring |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. It's not a strawman, or a red herring. |
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marcus5aurelius
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You're getting way off topic |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Off topic? How? |
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marcus5aurelius
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Well you've made that much clear |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Now you're trying to introduce... |
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jazzhound
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Of course you don't have time to debate with anyone who |
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The_Commonist
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Sat Apr-17-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Good morning... Yes, it's an emotion based arguement. |
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tburnsten
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Sat Apr-17-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. It's an emotion-based opinion |
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jazzhound
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Sun Apr-18-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
115. The fact that an iteration is poorly constructed or lacks sanity |
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jazzhound
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Sat Apr-17-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. tburnsten sums it up. n/t |
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cowman
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Well Luckily |
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tburnsten
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Sat Apr-17-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
93. It's an opinion, not an argument |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
111. More problems with your "arguments:" |
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Euromutt
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Mon Apr-19-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
119. "A poor substitute for actual thought and debate"; that sums up your post |
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HALO141
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Mon Apr-19-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
120. OK, look at it this way, then... |
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TheWraith
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Mon Apr-19-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
122. Because it's not your right to dictate what others are allowed to do. Why can't you accept that? |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. The strawman was "you want everybody to carry guns around!!"!!"!" |
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The_Commonist
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Fri Apr-16-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Fair enough. |
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cowman
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
70. People already are armed |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Apr-16-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Wouldn't bother me. N/T |
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proteus_lives
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
98. Humanity managed quite well. |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
110. Do you REALLY want some serious answers... |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Who carries a kitchen around with them 24/7? nt |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't carry a butcher knife |
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spin
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Fri Apr-16-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. The problem with a blade thats half serrated ... |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Apr-16-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
84. Do you ever have arguments while in the your home? |
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onehandle
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. If you can't see the difference between carrying a gun around and let's say... |
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Pavulon
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Bottom Line. This is a giant fucking landmine. Bait. |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. You're right.... |
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cowman
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
88. Quite frankly |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
112. Ah, the great teacher has spoken. nt |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Good luck getting an honest answer to that one |
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Katya Mullethov
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Life is what your thoughts make it |
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AlinPA
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
50. When I hear "open carry" I think about someone walking into a liquor store carrying a shotgun. |
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ManiacJoe
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Fri Apr-16-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. As long as it is not carried in your hands, |
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AlinPA
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Fri Apr-16-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. So "carrying" is not carrying? When I carry things I hold them in my hands. The law should |
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marcus5aurelius
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Fri Apr-16-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You know... |
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AlinPA
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I've been using guns for many years. No problems so far. |
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ManiacJoe
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. You know better than that. |
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AtheistCrusader
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. I carry a knife at all times. Haven't stabbed anyone either. |
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HALO141
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Mon Apr-19-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
121. Meh... You're just not living up to your potential. (Joke!) hahah! n/t |
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AtheistCrusader
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Well, I haven't shot anybody yet, so maybe my self control is just fine?! |
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
89. It is far more liklely... |
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slackmaster
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Sun Apr-18-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
101. We're active, we care about our rights, and that's why you people are LOSING |
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And yes, I get my opinions from listening to the reasons why they want to open carry. |
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X_Digger
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Mon Apr-26-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
123. *sniff* we hardly knew ye (and didn't care to.) |
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X_Digger
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
15. St Angelo's question isn't really consistent.. |
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Pavulon
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. No Universal CCW rules should. |
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Historic NY
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
28. one had to check their guns in Tombstone. |
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X_Digger
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "except the same be carried openly in sight, and in the hand"? |
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Pavulon
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And there used to be a Poll Tax too. |
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onehandle
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Tell it like it is, Rosa Parks! nt |
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Pavulon
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Fri Apr-16-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Oh that was used against anyone power did not like, Irish, Blacks.. |
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SteveM
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Sun Apr-18-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
113. I heard from Harriet Tubman and Fannie Lou Hamer. nt |
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Euromutt
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. There were Jim Crow laws at the time, too |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
77. And that was entirely Unconstitutional. |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Apr-16-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. AZ wasn't a state then. Became a state in 1912. N/T |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Oops, my bad. |
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pipoman
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Sat Apr-17-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Probably more likely to apply to territories than states |
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Callisto32
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Fri Apr-16-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
34. McCarty? |
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Katya Mullethov
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Fri Apr-16-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. Sans "shoulder things " ? Absolutely ! |
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
56. Should open carry be the law of the land? |
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X_Digger
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Agreed, and well put. n/t |
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shadowrider
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Fri Apr-16-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. For the record, I agree with you |
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jazzhound
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Fri Apr-16-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. I'll second X_Diggers "Agreed, and well put." n/t |
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jody
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Fri Apr-16-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. I love such OPs, they give people opportunities to demonstrate total ignorance of RKBA as decided by |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Apr-16-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
80. I posted a comment there, as username Carrying Safely. |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Ha, me too... Same screen name. n/t |
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PavePusher
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Fri Apr-16-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Err, meaning the same screen name I use hear. Not the same one you used... n/t |
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GreenStormCloud
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Sat Apr-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I assumed that was what you meant. N/T |
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tburnsten
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Sat Apr-17-10 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
92. Doesn't matter much |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Apr-18-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
102. Rep McCarthy |
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tburnsten
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Sun Apr-18-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
114. To her feeble mind it seems |
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Sun Apr-18-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
103. It already is the law off the land |
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