Store Owner Shoots At Would-be Robbers - this is how legal guns end up on the street......

[luvspeas]

KENSINGTON, Md. - Two would-be robbers walked into the Sandro Jewelry and Boutique antiques store in Kensington's Antiques Row Tuesday, police said, they got more than they bargained for.

Investigators fear the would-be robbers may now be armed. They say the shop owner had two weapons, and a .38-caliber pistol is now missing.

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0410/730223.html

[Remmah2]

1. more guns on the street.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/homeland-security-lost-dozens-guns-report/story?id=9875383

"Guns meant to help safeguard America found their way into the hands of known criminals after absent-minded federal officers left firearms unsecured everywhere from fast-food restaurants to bowling alleys, according to a report by the Department of Homeland Security. "

I guess only police agencies are trained to own firearms.

[Walk away]

12. How many times has this been posted here? You guys need some new material!...nt

[Remmah2]

13. Is is any less relevant?

The fact is illegal firearms come from multiple sources, something the thread originator fails to acknowledge. Otherwise one might conclude there is an agenda.

[Walk away]

16. Posting this same incident over and over again has the opposite effect....nt

[RandomHero]

2. Really?

This seems like a HIGHLY issolated incident at best and
does'nt do much to illustrate your point. 

[luvspeas]

3. REALLY?

n/t

[RandomHero]

8. off topic

As I am new to this forum could someone tell me what "nt" or "n/t" means.

[X_Digger]

9. n/t = no text in the body of the message. n/t

[Remmah2]

4. Was any point made? nt

nt

[one-eyed fat man]

6. Crooks steal stuff!!!

Film at eleven! Who, besides you, is amazed and breathlessly posting that thieves steal?

[Remmah2]

7. Crooks do not steal!

Think of it as wealth equalization.

[Hoopla Phil]

5. Happens. Not as often as these though.

Guns stolen from Clayton police car
http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/guns-stolen-from-clayton-132784.html


Row over stolen police guns (14 glocks)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/row-over-stolen-police-guns/2007/01/18/1169095908948.html?s_cid=rss_smh


Police gun stolen from car at shopping centre
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/police-gun-stolen-from-car-at-shopping-centre/2008/07/23/1216492541133.html

Surprise police chief's car, badge, gun stolen
http://www.azcentral.com/community/westvalley/articles/2008/07/14/20080714surprise-chief0714-ON.html


Clearly police should not be allowed to have guns. That way the they won't end up on the streets.

[Hoopla Phil]

10. Here's another way gunzez ends up on the street. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x313962

[Euromutt]

11. The primary source of guns to the criminal circuit (in the US) is crooked FFLs

Which is why we have the ATF to keep tabs on them, and I have no issue with that.

[Remmah2]

14. Not according to Tom Diaz. nt

nt

[Euromutt]

15. Who's Tom Diaz?

My source is a 2000 ATF report, Following The Gun; it's by no means fully reliable, in that it tries to mislead by obfuscating certain details (e.g. it mentions that X number of guns enter the black market at gun shows, but does not distinguish between sales by FFLs and by private sellers), but it does not tell outright lies (a close reading reveals that the suspects who sold the most guns to traffickers at gun shows were FFLs, and the worst private sellers were acting as cutouts for crooked FFLs, but you do have to read closely).