Daley Vows New Gun Ordinances

[Bold Lib]

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Daley-Vows-New-Gun-Ordinances-97328384.html

As expected, Mayor Daley and Chicago's City Council are circling the wagons to defend against an unfavorable decision by the Supreme Court concerning the city's gun ban.

Daley said the city would have in place a new ordinance aimed at making it difficult to purchase and own a gun in Chicago.

"We'll publicly propose a new ordinance very soon," Daley said at an afternoon press conference concerning the gun ban.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Daley-Vows-New-Gun-Ordinances-97328384.html#ixzz0sBLBVbDx






We are going to be in for many more years of this. Doesn't Daley have a relative at the law firm that represents the city?

[msongs]

1. look out he is gonna ban 6 year olds from exercising their RKBA rights since the US

constitution says nothing to prohibit babies or criminals, terrorist groups, or airplane hijackers from owning and using guns.

Msongs

[virginia mountainman]

3. Straw man and hyperboil, all in one sentence!! NICE!! NT

[Bold Lib]

4. Ha Ha Ha. Just add it to the list of jokes

"all gun owners must be required to join the militia, like the constitution says nt"
"all gun owners should be required to join the militia, as the constitution says nt"
"gun owners should be required to join the militia - "A well regulated militia being necessary..." nt"
"all gun owners must be required to join the militia, like the constitution says nt"
"are you in the militia as required by the second amendment? nt"
"you only have a right to a gun if you're in the militia per 2nd amendment nt"
"if you're in the militia you have the right to bear arms nt"


"fear of a black president nt"
"gun sales soar as first BLACK president is sworn in - gee wonder who's rushing the gun stores? nt"
" having a black president has way jackkked up gun sales. hmm wonder why? nt"
"fear of a black president + right wing media hysteria egging things on nt"
"racist gun wingnuts and fear of a black president - great for business eh gun shops? nt"
"gun whackos run amok using fear of a black president nt"
" fear of a black president run amok nt"
"fear of a black president by a group which is full of racists lol nt"
"lol sales are way up amongst the fear of a black president crowd...WAY up amongst racists nt"
"fear of a black president is doing wonders for the gun industry nt"
"did they tell you a BLACK man is now president n u should run out n buy guns? nt"
"fear of black president - go out and buy lots more guns nt"
"fear of a black president is swelling your ranks for the most part imo nt"
"driven by fear of a black president, gun sales have soared in the USA :-) nt"


"the toddler was just excercising his 2nd amendment rights IF he was in the militia nt"
"nuclear weapons are "arms". every 6 year old should have some nt"
"should be legal for 5 yr olds to carry at day care centers, after all, the constitution"
"constitutution does not prohibit 5 yr olds from owning guns. free guns for all apt. kids nt"
"guns for everyone, serial killers, 5 years olds, nut cases - constitutional rights ya know nt"
"children have a right to own and shoot guns anytime they wish. no bidg deal really nt"
"students have a constitutional right to carry guns at school...there is no age listed in the"
"all kids should be allowed to carry to school - 2nd amendment does NOT probhibit this nt"
"kids at elementary school should be allowed to carry guns, 2nd amnd. doesnt say adults only nt"
"yes the 2nd amendment allows 6 year olds to take guns to school so lets allow that too :-) nt"
"2nd amendment does not prohibit gun ownership by 8 year olds anywhere they go nt"

"crazies n nuts have a constitutional right to own and use guns too nt"
" legalize al weapons - convicted felons have a constitutional right to guns ya know nt"
"parolees, probationers, nuts, serial killers - everyone has the right to own guns . "
" the constitution does NOT bar serial killers from owning guns...or 4 year olds either nt"
"2nd amendment does NOT prohibit guns on airplanes or in the hands of criminals nt"
"2nd amendment does NOT prohibit felons or 5 year olds from owning guns nt"
"criminals have a constitutional right to carry guns on airplanes - not prevented by 2nd amendment nt"
"terrorists have a right to carry guns on planes, not prohibited by 2nd amendment. nt"
"terrorists have a 2nd amnd. right to carry guns on planes - not prohibited ya know nt"
"terroristsRKBA rights are denied when they cannot open carry on airliners nt"
"terrorists & serial killers have 2nd amendment rights too ya know. nt"
"prohibiting guns on airplanes and in schools = anti-RKBA bigotry right? nt"
"unlimited protection = terrorist RKBA rights to take guns on airplanes nt"
"the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed for any reason at all ever lol nt"

"no righteous killing to get off on in this one? nt"
"let all those gangbangers shoot a bunch of kids - its their righteous killing rights nt"
"so will the resident gun lovers call this another "righteous killing"? stay tuned ..... nt"
"is this another "righteous killing" for the gun crowd to celebrate? nt"
" "another righteous shoot" ..... jesus loves u anyway nt"
"another "righteous killing" for sure - after all that's what guns are FOR nt"
"oh this one is not righteous enough for u lololol. nt"
"the righteous killings are wonderful if a gun is used crowd disagree with you nt"
"another righteous killing in gun land...oh wait, the kid didnt die....yet nt"

[one-eyed fat man]

8. Nah,

Daley will just spend another 3.26 million dollars in legal fees in a futile defense the next unconstitutional ordinance he enacts. It's taxpayer's money and goes to a law firm owned by a relative.

And you will be keep repeating the same inanities things you always have.

Nothing else will change. Corruption and duplicity are constants when it comes to Chicago.

[Katya Mullethov]

12. " Ahm just carryin' on an old ...family tradition "

Chicago continues its 113-year tradition of violating civil rights and forcing SCOTUS to apply those rights to the states:

Chicago, B. & Q. R. Co. v. Chicago

Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Co. v. City of Chicago, 166 U.S. 226 (1897), incorporated the takings clause of the 5th amendment into the due process clause of the 14th amendment by requiring states to provide just compensation for seizing private property. This was the first supreme court case that incorporated an amendment of the Bill of Rights. Prior to this case, the Bill of Rights was considered to only apply to the Federal government.

The Chicago city council decided on October 9, 1880 to widen Rockwell Street, which required appropriating land owned by private individuals, as well as the right of way for property owned by Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company. In a jury trial, the jury awarded fair compensation to the individual land owners for condemning their lots, and awarded the railroad company one dollar ($1.00) for appropriating the right of way for its property (166 U.S. 226, 230). The railroad company appealed.

The City of Chicago contended that due process of law was purely procedural and only required allowing the railroad company's case to be heard: "the question as to the amount of compensation to be awarded to the railroad company was one of local law merely, and...the company appearing and having full opportunity to be heard, the requirement of due process of law was observed" (166 U.S. 226, 233).

[proteus_lives]

17. Do you ever get tired of failing?

:rofl:

[virginia mountainman]

2. I think I hear Bulldozers heading for Mr McDonalds house right now!!!

Mayor Daley does have a history of doing such things..

Text

In 1994, Daley announced plans to close the airport and build a park in its place on Northerly Island. Northerly Island where the airport was located was owned by the Chicago Park District, which refused to renew the airport lease in 1996.<5> The city briefly closed the airport from the expiration of the lease in October 1996 through February 1997 when pressure from the state legislature persuaded them to reopen the airport.<6>

In 2001, a compromise was reached between Chicago, the State of Illinois, and others to keep the airport open for the next twenty-five years. However, the federal legislation component of the deal did not pass the United States Senate. In a controversial move on March 31, 2003, Mayor Daley ordered private crews to destroy the runway in the middle of the night, bulldozing large X-shaped gouges into the runway surface.<7> The required notice was not given to the Federal Aviation Administration or the owners of airplanes tied down at the field, and as a result sixteen planes were left stranded at an airport with no operating runway, and an incoming flight was diverted. The stranded aircraft were later allowed to depart from Meigs' 3,000-foot (910 m) taxiway.<8>

Mayor Daley defended his actions, described as "appalling" by general aviation interest groups, by claiming it would save the City of Chicago the effort of further court battles before the airport could close. He claimed that safety concerns required the closure, due to the post-September 11 risk of terrorist-controlled aircraft attacking the downtown waterfront near Meigs Field.<9> In reality, closing the airport made the airspace less restrictive. When the airport was open, downtown Chicago was within Meigs Field's Class D airspace, requiring two-way radio communication with the tower.<10> The buildings in downtown Chicago are now in Class E/G airspace, which allows any airplane to legally fly as close as 1,000 feet (300 m) from these buildings with no radio communication at all.<11>

Editorials in the Chicago Tribune pointed out that "the issue is Daley's increasingly authoritarian style that brooks no disagreements, legal challenges, negotiations, compromise or any of that messy give-and-take normally associated with democratic government." <12> Daley himself played the populist against the general aviation pilots who had previously used the airport because of its ideal location.<9>

Interest groups, led by the Friends of Meigs Field, attempted to use the courts to reopen Meigs Field over the following months, but because the airport was owned by the City of Chicago and had paid back its federal aviation grants, the courts ruled that Chicago was allowed to close the field. The FAA fined the city US$33,000 for closing an airport with a charted instrument approach without giving the required 30-day notice. This was the maximum fine the law allowed at the time. In the aftermath, the "Meigs Legacy provision" was passed into law, increasing the maximum fine per day from US$1,100 to US$10,000.<13>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_Field#Closure

On September 17, 2006, the city dropped all legal appeals and agreed to pay the $33,000 fine as well as repay $1 million in misappropriated FAA Airport Improvement Program funds that it used to destroy the airfield and build the Northerly Island park.<14>

[Ready4Change]

15. Daley nearly killed people with that 'stunt.'

A pilot was inbound to that airport when Daley had the one and only runway destroyed. I don't know if that pilot had passengers. While pilots are supposed to operate with sufficient emergency reserves to handle flying to an airport other than their planned destination, those reserves are called 'emergency reserves' for a reason. If you have to use them, it may be time for a brown pants drill.

And while they shouldn't, some pilots get complacent. They fly across the Great Lakes with insufficient reserves. And when some one decides, on his own, and illegally, to wipe the planned destination runway out of existence, well, such a pilot has a choice: Land his fuel-less plane in a Great Lake, or land it in a dense city.

PEOPLE COULD WELL HAVE DIED. And Daley is still in office. :mad:

[bluestateguy]

5. He's also anti-choice on abortion

And he is also apparently anti-choice on owning a gun too.

[virginia mountainman]

6. At least he is consistant... nt

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[spin]

9. If he pushes the envelope, I predict that his draconian regulations...

will be overturned in court at considerable expense to his city.

But of course he will push and in the end the result will be another victory for gun owners.

Gun owners owe Daley thanks for his efforts. He has helped further the cause of RKBA and we now have another SCOTUS ruling on our side.

[virginia mountainman]

10. He will be "thanked"

With a bill from Alan Gura and Associates, like like Mayor Fenty was in DC...3.6 Million was the bill D.C. got, to keep good, honest law abiding people disarmed.

Just think, these idiots are PAYING to advance our cause!

[spin]

11. In a tight economy with falling tax revenues ...

the money could be better used to retain teachers or police.

But Mayor Daley is very egotistical and will fight rather than admit that he has lost the battle and the war.

Hopefully, the citizens of Chicago will eventually replace him and his cronies with some people who believe in improving Chicago rather than running the city as a fiefdom for their profit and glory.

[beevul]

13. "fight for a ban on assault weapons"

"As a city we must continue to stand up ..and fight for a ban on assault weapons .. as well as a crackdown on gun shops," Daley said. "We are a country of laws not a nation of guns."


Daley just doesnt get it.

[rusty_rebar]

14. If it is true that his goal

is to make "it difficult to purchase and own a gun in Chicago."

Then the ordnance will surely fail.

If his goal is to implement some reasonable regulations to allow for lawful possession of firearms by citizens, then it will likely be fine.

I am not in favor of any gun control at all. I say even lets felons have guns. Most people are not felons, and the problem with felons with guns is just a minor technical problem that will be solved (at the felons expense) in short order.

But I also know I am a bit extreme in this view.

[proteus_lives]

16. Daley vows more corruption, racism and classism.

I thought I'd provide a translation.

[Bold Lib]

18. And to make a relative very rich representing the city in more gun cases that

they will lose. Tax payer money at work.