Gun policy shot down

[Superfly]

Story right here

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By a 3-2 vote, a decision to ban firearms from Sonora High School District campuses for any reason was overturned last night.

The zero-tolerance policy, passed in March, caused veterans, teachers and law enforcement officers to ask board members to reconsider their decision.

Most argued that a knowledge of firearms could actually prevent accidents and injuries.

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Trustee Ed Clinite, who originally voted against the zero-tolerance policy, said neither policy would prevent a student from bringing a concealed weapon onto campus.

At Colorado's Columbine High School, the site of a 1999 school shooting that left both students and teachers dead, Columbine's school board had enacted a gun policy similar to the one Sonora High trustees reinstated last night.

"A policy will not keep that sort of massacre from happening," Clinite said.

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Emphasis added by moi

[MrBenchley]

1. Boy THERE's a plus!

Guns in high school...NOTHING could go wrong there!

[Superfly]

2. When I was in college

I kept a 12 gauge shotgun and a .44 Mag revolver under my bed. And NOTHING went wrong there!

[MrBenchley]

3. Whoopdee-fucking-doo!

Peddle it in Paducah...or Pearl...or Red Lion...or Jonesboro....or Fayetteville...or Springfield...or Littleton...

[Superfly]

4. Now we see the real level

of your vocabulary. Nice one. Way to put me in my place! Because of your vast argumentative skills, I now vow to destroy my guns, disavow their existence, and tell everybody who disagrees with my to "peddle it elsehwere"

Just call me MrBenchly-Lite

[MrBenchley]

5. What more argumentative skill was needed?

Because you've got a gun fetish, you think high school students should be put at deadly risk. Which has already been shown to be an imbecilic idea:

Dec. 1, 1997
West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by Michael Carneal, 14, as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High School.

Oct. 1, 1997
Pearl, Miss. Two students killed and seven wounded by Luke Woodham, 16, who was also accused of killing his mother.

April 24, 2003
Red Lion, Pa. James Sheets, 14, killed principal Eugene Segro of Red Lion Area Junior High School before killing himself.

March 24, 1998
Jonesboro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed, ten others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false fire alarm. Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, shot at their classmates and teachers from the woods.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

But no-one needs to worry anymore, because you used to have a gun under your bed.

[Superfly]

6. Yes, master.

I see the errors in my ways. Please don't beat me!

[ComplimentarySwine]

9. Notice, everyone

how MrBenchley convieniently neglects to mention how many lives could have been saved if ONE teacher at any of those schools would have had a gun and known how to use it.

Also notice how he neglects to mention all of the school shootings that were cut short by people who ran to their parked cars to get their guns.

[MrBenchley]

10. Yeah we know

Gun nuts think every solution to our national tragedy should involve MORE lead flying through the air...

[Spoonman]

15. Hang on,

Do you mean to tell us that tighter gun control laws, waiting periods, and weapons free school zones (which I support), would have prevented these tragedies from occurring?

First off, Luke Woodham the 16-year-old Pearl High School student beat and stabbed his mother to death, before he went on his shooting spree.
So I guess eliminating guns would have prevented her death?!

There is an issue here though, you are right. It will not however get solved by blamming guns.

Lets take a look at the real problems

1. All of them obtained the guns by theft of someone outside the family, from their parents, older siblings or a close relative.

2. All of them had some type of mental malfunction. (I'm sure this is ambiguous but I think you understand the point, if not we all know who ...wink, wink... will point at the problems with this statement.)

More often than not, in today’s society we place blame in a manner that relegates responsibility to others instead of on the true source of the issue at hand.
We look to solve problems in our society through legislation and lawsuit rather than personal responsibility.
Gun owners fuel the anti gun movement with all the ammo (sorry) they need, by failing to responsibly secure their guns.
Gun ownership is a right in this country, but that right carries with it many responsibilities.
The parents of these children are IMO guilty of failing their children on several levels, and should be held accountable for these failings.
Had these parents been “parents” the problems these children were experiencing, quite possibly, might not have escalated to such tragic levels.
These stories do not demonstrate the need for gun control; they demonstrate the need for parents to take responsibly for their children!
Blamming guns is a cop-out for parents who want to maintain the status quo of sqirt em’ out and dump em’ off at day care to let someone else raise them. I'm busy, my kids are fine and I can always blame someone or something else if something goes wrong.
Yea there's an epidemic in this country, it's called piss poor parenting.

[Superfly]

16. Go peddle that elsewhere

Whew...I had to beat Benchly to it.

Now, what were you saying?

[BullDozer]

7. What's your problem with the conditions they set?

"allowing guns on campus with the principal's permission and strict supervision "

[Superfly]

8. He's got a problem

with anything that is not an outright ban of firearms. Barring that, he would like to see an outright ban of firearms owners. I think his idea of a wet dream is all gun owners on a deserted isle, where they are constantly whipped, flogged, and made to perform dangerous and disgusiting labor.

[MrBenchley]

11. Wise up

It's an idiotic policy.

[idadem]

12. boneheads

A lot of boneheads think that volatile situations come under control when the good guys? (cops!) show up.

Aren't these just a few more armed, governmentally-created dreamers living out their elephant-party fantasies?

[Name removed]

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[MiniBalrog]

13. How so? (nt)

nt