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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:33 PM Original message |
Concealed carry article in Harper's Magazine ... |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. First let me say I support your and my right to own and if we need |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Thirty thousand gun deaths where? |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. " Nationwide each year an average of 30,000 people die in gun violence, |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Taught and trained |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It is total gun related deaths, suicide, accident, and homicide. Which begs the question why they |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Which begs the question |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Don't mean to be a jerk about this.... |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. So your OK with that kind of world? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Our non-gun rate of violence is multiples higher than many countries' total violence. |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Thank you, that was my point, all I said was that I didn't understand |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. No, that's what you SHOULD have said. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Funny thing, violence. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I never said I was ok with that kind of world |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. And less than 300 of those deaths are lawful uses of concealed carry weapons. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Who determines 'need' and when do civil rights require 'need'? |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Lots of regulations on religion and the press. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. That's not an answer, that's a dodge. n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Note that those are limitations on causing harm. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I don't think that "owning" a gun |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Which is a lot more limited than what the Constitution says. n/t |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It's also illegal to discharge firearms at others, or in certain areas |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. ON the other hand |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Which would be analogous to 'shall-issue' licensing. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Except that by uttering a threat, you are actually umm... |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. And it is illegal to shoot people or their property, outside very specific circumstances. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Are you going for the Bulwer-Lytton prize, WHEN CRABS ROAR? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. If I "need" to carry. Not interested in some entity called "we." |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'll pick up a copy next time I'm at the grocery. Recommended |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R, excellent article. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
16. Sounds like a great article - I am proud of Harpers for publishing it and |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
17. Ever so slowly the tide is shifting. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. Our local NPR affiliate interviewed the author- |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Thanks. I enjoyed the interview. N/T |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. Esquire Magazine, Sept 1981, "The Case For Guns" |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I actually remember that article. (n/t) |
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