The Birthplace of The Second Amendment?

[hexola]

Wondering what folks might think of this??

http://www.2ndamendmentpa.com/

This started out as an effort to save a historic building that is tied to the early stages of the American Revolution. (think James Smith and The Black Boys)

But the group factioned, and now has this sub-group spinning (IMO) this "birthplace of the 2nd Amendment" notion.

I maintain that its just not logical to cast these events as a "defining moment" in the formation of the 2nd Amendment. It has a relation, but thats as far as I can take it.

The "birthplace" was the constitutional convention in 1787. (and even then they didnt add the Bill of Rights until 1790)

And, apparently, the English Bill of Rights contains similar language.

Birthplace?...more like glory seeking blowhards, IMO.

I think these poor folks have fallen for all froth and fever of the 2nd amendment "supporters"

Even worse, the notion drips of cynicism toward our rural population...(they cling to their guns) - not a great way to gain the locals support...a bit obvious.

And - appreciate anyone who could cross-post this site to FreeRepublic...I would actually be interested in their take on it.

[X_Digger]

1. One event in a long chain, but no 'birthplace'. n/t

[enlightenment]

2. Well, one might argue that the 'birthplace'

was in the essays of the 'Centinel' (the Anti-Federalist Papers) - if one wanted to argue such a point.

I agree that it was a cumulative process, not an 'event' !

[DonP]

3. I'd opt for Lexington Green or that bridge thing in Concord...

... as the place where it was made clear that no government entity, no matter how empowered or entitled it felt it was, had the right to disarm its citizens.

Also that forced attempts to disarm the citizenry could be very hazardous to the health of those charged with gun confiscation.

(Maybe Mayors Daley, Bloomberg et. al. need to go on a field trip to the United States and learn something about it's history and constitution.)

[-..__...]

4. The irony...

both locations are in MA.

Neither of those events would take place nowadays because the rebels would still be waiting for the constable to issue them their firearms permit.

Those that did have their muskets in hand, would be up shits creek looking for their misplaced trigger lock key.

[spin]

8. My trigger lock key is on my key chain ...

I personally have never had a problem with the lock on a S&W revolver. I leave it off and check it after I clean the weapon.

One time an individual at the pistol range came into the lobby and asked if anyone had a key. I unlocked his revolver and he said it locked up while he was shooting. The range master pointed out to me that, most likely, he had just forgot he locked it.

My primary self defense and concealed carry revolver, an S&W model 642 .38+P revolver was made before the lock. I do occasionally carry a S&W Model 60 .357 magnum in the winter. It does have the lock.

I do agree about your comments on MA. They seem to have lost the concept of freedom in the very place it was born.

[SteveM]

5. Some interesting history, but much of the theory behind the Second...

comes from European sources, esp. Locke.

[hexola]

6. DU needs a history lesson

http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-philadelphia/the-democratic-underground-needs-a-history-lesson-1

The blogger hexola on Democratic Underground had a post on August 9, 2010 questioning The Smith Rebellion as the birth place of the Second Amendment. That question is fair enough so let me answer both you and one of your respondents who believes the fiction that the American Revolution began at Lexington Green April 19,1775.

I might first point you to a number of America's best historians and authors who are coming to new conclusions about this period of history based on new primary source documentary evidence that paints a much diffrent picture of this period of history. Terry Bouton in Taming Democracy, Patrick Griffen in American Leviathan, Marjoleine Kars in Breaking Loose Together about the North Carolina Regulator Movement and Kevin Kenny's book Peacable Kingdom Lost about The Paxton Boys all will enable you to begin to see that Lexington and Concord were not the beginning but the culmination of a process that began on the frontier not in places like Boston or Philadelphia but in places such as today's Mercersburg, Pa.

[X_Digger]

7. Still not seeing it, myself..

You could look at the home of Locke, or the place where the 1689 English Bill of Rights was written, or the Philadelphia State house where the second amendment was written..

It seems to be, as you say in the OP, "glory seeking blowhards".

I'm sure an outlaw before Smith would have asserted that he was just 'defending his liberty' against the British, so what makes this (in their eyes) such a defining moment as to be worthy of calling it 'the birthplace of the second amendment'?