The Gospel according to AK-47

[madamesilverspurs]

God and Gun-Grabbing U.N. Democrats
by: Colorado Pols
Sun Aug 22, 2010 at 13:49:54 PM MDT

A report in today's Loveland Reporter-Herald that is not to be missed:

Evidence that the Second Amendment is alive, and thrives, in Loveland was not hard to find Saturday morning at Mountain View Presbyterian Church's Fellowship Hall.
It was on Dudley Brown's hip, in the form of a holstered pistol, as he preached the gun rights gospel, taking a harder line than the National Rifle Association...

Brown pointed to a young man seated in the back row of the hall, a campaign worker for U.S. Rep. Betsy Markey, D-Colo., who was recording the remarks of Brown and other speakers at the event.

"They want us to say crazy things, and then put them in a Markey commercial," he said.

Brown then warned his audience that they would be shocked by what he would say next.

"You might not like this," he said. "It may make you uncomfortable. But it is more likely that your neighbor will come to your home and ask for your money or your gun than someone wearing a blue helmet," a reference to soldiers serving under the United Nations banner...

As we've briefly mentioned previously, there's a boogeyman out there in the more fanatical circles of the gun rights crowd called the United Nations Small Arms Treaty. This treaty, which is some years from reality, is more concerned with the totally regulated international market in small arms than the United States' firearm laws--which, in case you don't get the National Rifle Association's newsletter, are already quite strict as we understand it.


... read the rest at http://www.coloradopols.com/diary/13516/god-and-gungrabbing-un-democrats



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[RandomThoughts]

1. Saying crazy things can also be noise.

Or maybe the sane things are :)

[SteveM]

7. Yeah, I cannot tell from this who is talking, and about what. nt

[Pavulon]

2. Holy cow that is terrible writing.

i cant slog through it to find its point. I mean holy god send these people to journalism school.

[Euromutt]

3. There's no such thing as a UN "Small Arms Treaty"

There is the United Nations' "Programme of Action on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons," which is not quite the same. And, in fact, the United States already meets most (possibly all) of the provisions in the PoA, such as requiring newly manufactured or imported firearms to be stamped with a unique identifier to make it traceable.

But Dudley Brown's congregation's grasp of reality--or more precisely, lack thereof--is evident from this assertion (from the Reporter-Herald article http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=29218):

“Our founders had a biblical world view and believed this was a Christian nation,” Sue Rehg said.

“The true history of our nation has been written out of the history books.”

Well, to test that assertion, we can compare the Bill of Rights to the Ten Commandments (Ex.20, KJV).

Ex. 20:2-3: I am the LORD thy God <...>, thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <...>

Ex. 20:4: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Ex. 20:7: Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Amendment I: <...> or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; <...>

The First Amendment to the Constitution directly contradicts the first three Commandments. How the fuck can you have a "Constitution Action Workshop" when you don't even acknowledge that the text of the Constitution itself directly contradicts the beliefs you cling to?

The thing is that the Framers understood very well that the United States, at its founding, was not "a Christian nation"; it encompassed at least five varieties of Christianity, almost all of which regarded the others as heretics. And shit, most of the varieties of militant Christianity in existence today (e.g. Evangelicals, Southern Baptists, Missouri Synod Lutherans, LDS, etc.) didn't even exist during the Founders' and Framers' lifetimes. If anyone's trying to impose counter-factual historical revisionism, it's Ms Rehg over there.

[benEzra]

4. Well said, on both points.

I've had some unpleasant dealings with the Religious Right in the past, and I can say that by and large those people are NOT strong believers in civil liberties. They seemed to me to have the attitude that "anything I like should be legal, and anything I don't like should be banned and prosecuted with extreme prejudice."

[cleanhippie]

5. it is more likely that your neighbor will come to your home and ask for your money or your gun than

"it is more likely that your neighbor will come to your home and ask for your money or your gun than someone wearing a blue helmet"



and that is the truth.

[slackmaster]

6. Apparently Mr. Pols hasn't actually read the NRA's position on the UN treaty rumor either

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=5855

But hey, just throwing out an unsupported speculation about someone else's position seems to be the latest tactic of the gun ban extremists.