Timothy McVeigh: NRA Member, Supporter of Gun Rights

[CO Liberal]

Those who keep posting all those "supporter of gun rights" threads should bear this in mind. McVeigh supported gun rights, too.

[GRClarkesq]

1. I cannot respond to such logic.

n/t

[Democrats unite]

3. Ditto.

eom

[demsrule4life]

2. wow I was supporting gun rights before he was born

and I still support them since he turned to dust.

[TexasMexican]

4. Hitler breathed air...

I guess that means your a Hitler supporter too huh CO Liberal seeing as both you and Hitler both breathed air.

[CO Liberal]

5. Faulty Logic, TexMex

No one chooses to breathe air or not. But people choose whether or not to carry a gun. If you choose to carry, you're in some bad company.

[RoeBear]

6. Pathetic

He probably loved his mom too.

He probably voted too.

He probably did alot of things that you do.

Hitler was a vegetarian, that doesn't make vegetarians monsters.

McVeigh was a gun-owner, that doesn't make gun-owners monsters.

Nice try at painting with that broad brush. though.

[CO Liberal]

7. Just Remember That, RoeBear.....

...the next time someone tries to use their hatred of Sarah brady to paint all pro-control folks.

[Columbia]

10. Sarah's a bit different

She is the leading advocate and voice for gun-control and not some fringe character in the varied landscape.

[RoeBear]

12. I don't hate Sara...

...I just dislike the things that she is trying to do to gun-rights.

[Wcross]

33. I'm sorry, he used a bomb to kill.......

Are you saying everyone that owns a gun is liable to blow up a Federal building with a bomb? I fail to see the connection between the gun and the bomb. If thats the best argument you have for further gun laws, I will sleep well tonight............

[alwynsw]

35. And in some fine company as well

At least I'm fine according to my wife.

[slackmaster]

8. Didn't McVeigh renounce his NRA membership?

IIRC he was pretty peeved at the organization for caving on the assault weapons ban in 1994.

[MrBenchley]

9. You might recall

McVeigh wandered the gun show network for years....and didn't stand out even a bit in among the other "enthusiasts."

[RoeBear]

11. Were you expecting...

...to see horns growing out of his head?

[demsrule4life]

16. Wonder if he smelled like diesel and fertilizer

could of sworn that is what made him famous.

[MrBenchley]

18. Being a neoNazi terrorist is what made him famous

As such, he fit right in at gun shows...

[demsrule4life]

20. But the facts are

he never killed anyone with with a gun in OK now did he?

[CO Liberal]

21. Not That We Know Of.....

[MrBenchley]

Gee, try not to sound so disappointed....

[demsrule4life]

25. Just goes to show you

that the biggest mass killers our country has had never used a gun.

[MrBenchley]

26. Gee, dems, and this by you

makes the rest of the Nazi nutcases at gun shows hunky-dory?

[CO Liberal]

28. Wait a Minute...

Does this mean the Nazis weren't so bad because they used gas chambers instead of guns to kill over six million Jews????

[MrBenchley]

29. Guess so.....

RKBA "logic"--glad I ain't got a speck of whatever that is rattling around in those heads.

In the "Why are we here" folder right now there's a stirring defense of gun nuts dressing up like Nazis and running around with machine guns because it's being done close to Ohio. Like THAT makes a difference.

[demsrule4life]

30. You said it

not me.

[CO Liberal]

27. Not True, Dems

McVeigh WAS in the military, and he WAS an NRA member. So it's safe to assume that soemwhere along the way, he used a gun.

Hell - even I'VE used a gun a few times - not since 1967, but a few times.

[RoeBear]

31. You didn't seriously misunderstand...

...what he said did you?

[CO Liberal]

44. Here's What Dems Said

Underlining mine:

SUBJECT: Just goes to show you...

MESSAGE: ...that the biggest mass killers our country has had never used a gun.

There aren't too many different ways to take the phrase "had never used a gun". "Never" means "never", and in McVeigh's case that's flat-out incorrect.

[demsrule4life]

46. So the simple can follow

Most mass murderers in the U.S. (so the Nazi Germany thing isn't brought up again) did not use a gun during the commission of their crimes. Does this clear it up?

[RoeBear]

53. And the implied which...

....99.9% of the population understood was....IN THE COMMISSION OF HIS CRIME. (all caps mine)

[RoeBear]

22. Could have sworn...

...it was his fertilizer bombing that made him 'famous'.
BTW- I believe the correct word to use for a mass murderer is 'infamous'.

[slackmaster]

23. How the fuck would you know what fits in at gun shows?

Considering that you are proud of the fact that you've never even been to one.

[TyroneStryker]

43. Hello, I'm going to paint with a broad brush

everybody who goes to gunshows is a neonazi terrorist bomber. Anybody who is pro-rkba is pimping for Ashkkkroft. Gun owners are racist, everybody in the NRA is racist, and a closet Republican.

[MrBenchley]

48. Hahahahahahaha....

And the evidence to the contrary is....

damn near non-existent.

[Columbia]

49. Hahahahahahaha....

What a pantload. :evilgrin:

[MrBenchley]

50. Yup...the RKBA crowd deals in nothing but

[Columbia]

51. Actually I was talking about your comment

But you already knew that didn't you?

[MrBenchley]

52. My comment merely agreed with the previous post

But I guess you didn't notice that, did you?

[Columbia]

55. You knew it was sarcastic

And representative of many of the anti-RKBA posts here that are logically disingenous and intellectually bankrupt. Your comment that there is no evidence to the contrary is what is a true pantload.

[alwynsw]

36. Funny thing, Jeffery Dahmer didn't stand out, either

nor did Ted Bundy. As I recall, neither of them used a firearm to kill. I could be wrong on that, so correct me if necessary.

Hereafter, anyone who is considering breaking the law should carry a sign stating their intentions. Yea, that'll do it. Carry a sign.

[reprehensor]

13. The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh by Gore Vidal

http://www.geocities.com/gorevidal3000/tim.htm

[CO Liberal]

14. The Point I Was Trying to Make

A few people have been posting messages about different people (such as Carol Mosely Braun) supporting gun rights, as if seeing that will magically make some of use drop out pro-control positions. I was just trying to show how ridiculous those posts are by posting something that was completely opposite.

(Edited to correct the spelling of "posting".)

[RoeBear]

15. Not much to say now...

:hippie:

[MrBenchley]

19. By the way

Amazing that Carol Moseley-Braun's supposed support of gun rights didn't produce a SINGLE post in her favor from the RKBA crowd until today, isn't it?

Not a one.

[RoeBear]

24. And your point...

...is what?

[waylon]

17. Im confused...

I thought all liberals were whiny, scared-o-guns, too much time in the burbs, kinda folks!

I swear I heard that somewhere....

[lcordero]

32. Hitler supported gun control

[Wcross]

34. Don't forget Pol Pot (that rascal!) N/t

[MrBenchley]

37. But every Nazi around today peddles "gun rights"

at the top of their idiotic lungs.

So does the KKK and Aryann Nation. Go figure.

[beevul]

38. To which I must reply...

as another poster did.

Why do they wish to arm people thier groups are against?

I mean, you did say "gun rights", and "gun rights" are for everyone not legally disabled.

[MrBenchley]

39. Hey, you're asking why Nazis make no sense?

Perhaps because, like the NRA, those are groups that market themselves to the ignorant and bigoted.

[beevul]

40. I suppose your right

"Perhaps because, like the NRA, those are groups that market themselves to the ignorant and bigoted."

I'm sure the same could be said about gun control groups.

[MrBenchley]

41. It often is...

usually by people trying to pretend Ted Nugent and Larry Pratt aren't bigoted filth.

[TyroneStryker]

42. So?

Do you have a point?

[CO Liberal]

45. Yes, I Do

While the majority of gun owners are honest, decent people, there are a large number of "bad pples" in the bunch as well. Including leadership assholes like Wayne LaPierre and Ted Nugent, and one of the worse assholes of thm all, John Lott/Mary Rosh.

If pro-gunners want to be taken seriously, they need to weed out the bad apples.

[slackmaster]

47. The same can be said of gun control advocates, CO

All it takes is one Josh Sugarman to provide ammunition to paint all gun control advocates as gun-grabbing extremists.

[RoeBear]

54. Was McVeigh a public figure...

...prior to his crime, or just a member of the NRA?

[davidinalameda]

56. locking

flame bait