So, how *did* Democrats endorsed by the NRA do?

[friendly_iconoclast]

3/4 or so lost, 1/4 won- some were tight races, and the endorsement might have helped:

The list, probably incomplete, as discussed here previously:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x343931

Hee Hee Hee! RedState is having a meltdown over the NRA endorsing Democrats.



AL-2: Bobby Bright Lost
AR-4: Mike Ross Won
CA-18: Dennis Cardoza Won
CO-3: John Salazar Lost
CO-4: Betsy Markey Lost
FL-2: Allen Boyd Lost
Ga-2: Sanford Bishop Won
Ga-8: Jim Marshall Lost
Ga-12: John Barrow Won
IA-3: Leonard Boswell Won
IL-11: Debbie Halvorson Lost
IL-12: Jerry Costello Won
IN-Senate-Brad Ellsworth Lost
IN-2: Joe Donnely Won
IN-8: Trent Van Haaften Lost
IN-9: Baron Hill Lost
KY-6: Ben Chandler ?
MD-1: Frank Kratovil Lost
MI-1: Gary McDowell Lost
MN-1: Tim Walz Won
MS-1: Travis Childers Lost
MS-4: Gene Taylor Lost
MO-4: Ike Skelton Lost
NC-7: Mike McIntyre Won
NC-8: Larry Kissell Won
NC-11: Heath Shuler Won
ND-At Large: Earl Pomeroy Lost
NM-1: Martin Heinrich Won
NM-2: Harry Teague Lost
NM-3: Ben Lujan Won
NY-20: Scott Murphy Lost
NY-23: Bill Owens Won
NY-24: Mike Acruri Lost
OH-Gov. Ted Strickland Lost
OH-6: Charlie Wilson Lost
OH-16: John Boccieri Lost
OH-18: Zack Space Lost
OK-2: Dan Boren Won
OR-5: Kurt Schrader Won
PA-4: Jason Altmire Won
PA-10: Chris Carney Lost
PA-11: Paul Kanjorski Lost
PA-12: Mark Critz Won
PA-17: Tim Holden Won
SD-At Large: Stephanie Sandlin Lost
TN-4: Lincoln Davis ?
TN-8: Roy Herron Lost
TX-17: Chet Edwards Lost
UT-2: Jim Matheson Won
VA-2: Glenn Nye Lost
VA-5: Tom Perriello Lost
VA-9: Rick Boucher Lost
WI-3: Ron Kind Won
WI-8: Steve Kagen Lost
WV-Senate: Joe Manchin Won
WV-3: Nick Rahall Won

[doc03]

1. Did the NRA give money or spend any money on even one of

their campaigns?

[onehandle]

2. No. They spent it on Republicans. The rest is held to defeat Democrats and Obama in 2012.

Their 'endorsements' were just lip service.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2010/10/11/GR2010101105789.html

[spin]

7. Did you notice that your graph shows only a one week period?

Why the NRA is rallying behind endangered Democrats
By Gail Russell Chaddock, Staff writer / October 8, 2010

The National Rifle Association – one of the top all-time donors to Republican candidates – is backing some of the most embattled House Democrats in Election 2010.

Since 1989, NRA financial support has gone overwhelmingly to Republicans, who have picked up 85 percent of campaign contributions from the gun industry in the last 20 years. But contributions are shifting. Campaign contributions from gun rights groups to Democratic congressional candidates jumped from 12 percent in the 2008 campaign cycle to 20 percent for this year's election. emphasis added
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/House/2010/1008/Why-the-NRA-is-rallying-behind-endangered-Democrats

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. Either we weren't supposed to notice that little detail, or....

....someone got their degree at the College of It Stands To Reason.

[onehandle]

20. Thanks. I did actually miss that, but I stand by my point.

They spent millions on Republicans and thousands on Blue Dogs. Now the Blue Dogs are Dead, which was expected.

The NRA is free to go back to normal:

http://www.gunbanobama.com

[AtheistCrusader]

22. Not so fast.

Yes, I know this is an NRO link, but it's the only place I found the interview. Worth a read.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/247820/staying-target-jim-geraghty?page=1

[spin]

27. Thanks. The was an interesting read. (n/t)

[PavePusher]

32. Or, Dems can rustle up some more support for the Second Amendment...

and undermine the Repubs.

Just a thought...

[friendly_iconoclast]

9. WRONG. They gave $185,900 to Democrats. Can we assume your other posts are of similar accuracy?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00053553&cycle=2010

National Rifle Assn Contributions to Federal Candidates


Senate
Total to Democrats: $15,400

Dorgan, Byron L (D-ND) $2,500
Ellsworth, Brad (D-IN) $7,950
Reid, Harry (D-NV) $4,950


House
Total to Democrats: $170,500

Altmire, Jason (D-PA) $6,450
Arcuri, Michael (D-NY) $1,000
Baca, Joe (D-CA) $3,000
Barrow, John (D-GA) $4,950
Berry, Marion (D-AR) $1,500
Bishop, Sanford D Jr (D-GA) $3,650
Boccieri, John A (D-OH) $1,150
Boren, Dan (D-OK) $4,950
Boucher, Rick (D-VA) $1,000
Boyd, Allen (D-FL) $4,950
Bright, Bobby (D-AL) $7,100
Carney, Chris (D-PA) $3,650
Chandler, Ben (D-KY) $5,000
Childers, Travis W (D-MS) $2,000
Costello, Jerry F (D-IL) $1,000
Cuellar, Henry (D-TX) $1,150
Davis, Lincoln (D-TN) $4,950
Dingell, John D (D-MI) $6,000
Donnelly, Joe (D-IN) $2,000
Edwards, Chet (D-TX) $3,000
Gordon, Bart (D-TN) $1,000
Green, Gene (D-TX) $1,000
Halvorson, Deborah (D-IL) $4,150
Heinrich, Martin (D-NM) $2,000
Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (D-SD) $2,500
Higgins, Brian M (D-NY) $1,000
Hill, Baron (D-IN) $4,000
Holden, Tim (D-PA) $4,950
Hunter, Duncan D (R-CA) $2,000
Jones, Vernon A (D-GA) $1,500
Kagen, Steve (D-WI) $4,000
Kanjorski, Paul E (D-PA) $2,500
Kissell, Larry (D-NC) $4,950
Kratovil, Frank M Jr (D-MD) $4,950
Marshall, Jim (D-GA) $2,000
Matheson, Jim (D-UT) $2,500
McIntyre, Mike (D-NC) $2,000
Michaud, Mike (D-ME) $3,000
Mollohan, Alan B (D-WV) $4,950
Murphy, Scott (D-NY) $1,000
Nye, Glenn (D-VA) $150
Obey, David R (D-WI) $3,500
Perriello, Tom (D-VA) $2,000
Peterson, Collin C (D-MN) $1,500
Pomeroy, Earl (D-ND) $2,000
Rahall, Nick (D-WV) $2,000
Ross, Mike (D-AR) $5,000
Ryan, Tim (D-OH) $3,000
Salazar, John (D-CO) $3,000
Shuler, Heath (D-NC) $3,500
Skelton, Ike (D-MO) $3,000
Space, Zachary T (D-OH) $4,950
Stupak, Bart (D-MI) $1,000
Taylor, Gene (D-MS) $2,000
Walz, Timothy J (D-MN) $3,000

[virginia mountainman]

14. And to be fair... Here are the "Brady" numbers..

Lets see how much the gun control groups opened their wallets..

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2010&cmte=C00113449

House Totals $1,250

Connolly, Gerry (D-VA) $250
Hare, Phil (D-IL) $250
Kilroy, Mary Jo (D-OH) $250
Maffei, Dan (D-NY) $250
McMahon, Michael E (D-NY) $250


Senate Totals $1,500

Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) $1,000
Merkley, Jeff (D-OR) $500

Grand Total $2,750.....

LOL you can't even get a halfway decent used car for that!!!!!

[AtheistCrusader]

21. I, too, cherry-pick my data to support a false statement.

[SharonAnn]

4. Lincoln DAvis, TN-4, lost. Don't know why you have a "?" there. He lost.

[friendly_iconoclast]

12. My bad... n/t

[jancantor]

34. wow

Somebody actually apologized for posting something misleading/incorrect on the internet instead of backpedaling, dissapearing, obfuscating or name calling!

You Sir, are worthy of respect. You are in a select few.

[napi21]

3. It blows my mind that anyone is still falling for the old story

that "Dems are going to take away your guns"! I'm 67 and when I was dating my husband back in 1059 my future FIL was convinced the Dems were going to take his guns, AND he needed them to fight off an oppressive gov't! I talked to my hubby about this and I said "Has anyone ever taken away anyone's guns? He said o. I asked him where the hell did this fable come from but he didn't know either. It's been around long enugh to be dead already! But there are a lot of very maliable individuals out there who still believe it!

[doc03]

5. You were dating your husband back in 1059, who is

he Count Dracula?:yoiks:

[napi21]

6. HA Maybe but 1959 would be closer. nt

[RSillsbee]

13. Duncan Macleod? EOM

[Glassunion]

24. Well... There can be only one... nt

[pipoman]

15. Of coarse you know that there are those both

in the Dem party and the Reps who wish to impose restrictions and bans on various types of currently available firearms, no? Do you also realize that the silly, antiquated language calling for an assault weapons ban is still in the Dem platform? That the same type of language has been thrown around by administration officials and has been part of Obama's campaign promises? Why must 2nd Amendment issues always be framed as the "nobody's going to take your guns" nonsense? The question is is someone going to attempt to push through unwanted restrictions? Certainly you aren't actually saying, 'nobody wants to impose additional restrictions', are you?

[PavePusher]

18. Well, one of the jerks on MSNBC Morning Joe...

Just said he wants to ban all guns in America.

Gosh, how does that meme take hold?

P.S. California, New Jersey and New Orleans. Look. It. Up.

[benEzra]

19. The 1994 Feinstein ban certainly didn't help things...

nor did the far more draconian (and ultimately confiscatory) "Brady II" bill proposed earlier that year, or that have been proposed since (Google H.R.1022, for example).

The authoritarians who run the Brady Campaign/VPC, and the Third Way types who cater to them, do indeed want to ban the most popular guns in the United States---"assault weapons", "nonsporting" handguns, and so on. The DLC's "assault weapon" fraud is unfortunately still in the party platform.

[Katya Mullethov]

33. The gunshows triggering La Violencia meme is gonna be a Zumbo moment of epic proportions

And they wont let it go ! lol

[AtheistCrusader]

23. It would really help us if prominent Democrats would stop saying they want to do exactly that.

[SteveM]

28. Check out the Democratic Party Platform about gun-control proposals...

and President Obama's record. And AG Holder's recent (last year) call for renewal of the "assault weapons ban."

It would be mind-blowing if we Democrats got rid of the gun-ban platform plank, and just dropped the issue altogether, don't you think?

[friendly_iconoclast]

30. Gee, when stuff like this gets posted here at DU *after* your post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=347151&mesg_id=347168

"Discouraging gun ownership is good."

one can see where the meme comes from...

[spin]

8. 1/4 won. That's great!

Perhaps the NRA actually helped the Democratic Party.

Of course, many posters here will not recognize or appreciate the help.

[friendly_iconoclast]

11. And some deny that the help exists, even in the face of evidence.

Now, let's work on getting half of NRA-endorsed Democrats elected in 2012.

[spin]

26. Sounds like a plan to me! (n/t)

[jody]

16. I feel your pain that DUers use facts to destroy your rant. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. I'll add my rep to the list

MI-15: John Dingell(D) Won

NRA endorsed him, but he had a large margin even without the endorsement. This was one of very few Dem victories in MI.

:hi:

[GreenStormCloud]

25. When an A rated D lost he was replaced by an A rated R.

The NRA endorsement helped if the Republican had a lesser rating, but if the Republican also had an A, then it was a wash.

[Atypical Liberal]

29. Most of mine lost.

I live in a predominately red state (Alabama), which usually goes Republican. But all of my Democratic candidates except one had high marks from the NRA, and three were endorsed by the NRA.

You can see my ballot in my signature.

[GreenStormCloud]

31. Alabama really got clobbered.

Even your state legislature went red for the first time since the 1870s.