Update (Nov. 2010) - S. Korean Garands and M1 carbines coming back home???

[Xela]

Check out the co-sponsors.

Xela

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http://gunweek.com/1101issue/korea1101.html

Senate, House bills filed to clear sale of S. Korean guns

Legislation to lift the US State Department’s blockade on the sale of some 100,000 or more World War II and Korean War era Garand rifles and M1 Carbines to the US market by the South Korean government has been filed in both houses of Congress.

Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT), with Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) as co-sponsor, has announced introduction of legislation to allow American-made guns that were given or sold to a foreign government to be re-imported and sold in the US.

[Scuba]

1. Springfield Armory????

[oneshooter]

36. Springfield Armory, Winchester, H&R, , All of the makers. n/t

[Scuba]

39. I've wanted a Springfield M1 for a long time. Maybe now I can afford one. n /t

[TheWraith]

2. Woo hoo. Now if only I could afford one.

I'd love a Garand for historical reasons if nothing else, but even the $500 for a CMP model would be too much for my pocketbook right now. :(

[virgogal]

3. Whoopie----100,000 more guns in the USA. Just what we need.

[Xela]

4. You betcha: Collectible Firearms

Maybe I'll finally be able to upgrade from an SKS to a Garand.

Who knows, even get to try Service Rifle matches.

Xela

[DonP]

5. Yup, the M-1 Garand the favorite of gangs and drug dealers

Nothing says "control of the streets" and more gang violence like a 9+ pound collectors rifle that sells for around $550, only holds 8 rounds and is next to impossible to conceal, even in an SUV.

<sarcasm duly noted>

[Glassunion]

10. Nah...

Looks concealed to me? Anyone see a rife? Anyone...?
:sarcasm:

[benEzra]

6. Rifles of any type are the least misused guns in the USA, and these are antique collectibles.

FBI Uniform Crime Reports 2009, Table 20, Murder by State and Type of Weapon

[oneshooter]

7. What would you do with them? n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

8. Garand could be a good deer gun.

But you might have to do something interesting to limit the en-bloc clip capacity for use while hunting per local state laws.

[DonP]

12. 2, 3 and 5 round en bloc clips are available for target work or hunting. ntxt

[Glassunion]

11. Exactly...

You never know...
The South may rise again...
Zombies don't care how I voted...
It takes 911 an average of six minutes to get to my house...
Victims that shoot back live longer...
And you never know when the British might come looking for their back taxes.

:sarcasm:

[jazzhound]

20. I can think of four prominent liberal criminologists that disagree.

Pity for your emotion-based meme that four liberal criminologists disagree. Their credentials on this subject far exceed yours and mine.

Kathleen Daly, James Wright, Peter Rossi and Gary Kleck all believed at one time in the value of gun "control". Their beliefs changed dramatically once the evidence of their studies on the guns/violence issue revealed that gun "control"
had been worthless in curbing violence:

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Gun-Kathleen-Daly/product-reviews/0202303063/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

http://www.amazon.com/Targeting-Guns-Social-Institutions-Change/product-reviews/0202305694/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Don Kates is probably best described as a left-leaning Libertarian. His book (co-authored with Gary Kleck) is a fantastic starting point for those with the integrity to challenge their beliefs on the guns/violence issue:

http://www.amazon.com/Armed-New-Perspectives-Gun-Control/product-reviews/1573928836/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

On edit -- one review from this group:

The work presented in this book stands as a shining example of how social science research should be conducted. The authors' ability to set aside their preconceptions regarding gun control establishes their qualifications as preeminent researchers in the field and true professionals (as though this was necessary). Contemporary social science research is too often lacking in integrity; thankfully, these practitioners have made a contribution to the truth rather than some political ideology. The work cannot be classified as conservative or liberal. Rather, it represents a full and exhaustive exploration of the dynamics associated with the gun control debate as it is framed today. True students of the field should be grateful.

[PavePusher]

22. Got any facts to back up your veiled insinuations?

I'm betting.... not so much.

[krispos42]

24. So you would rather they bought 100,000 modern AR-15s, AK-47*s, and handguns instead?

*civvie-legal version, of course

[slackmaster]

27. They'll pose absolutely no threat to public safety

I want one of each, and my FFL will allow me to have them shipped straight to my home with no wait, no background check, and no California fees or taxes.

[Atypical Liberal]

28. They're just rifles.

These are big mucking military rifles. Not the sort of thing a criminal is going to use to commit crimes with. More people die every year from hands and feet than from rifles.

[Callisto32]

34. What we NEED is laws that punish people for who and what they hurt, not what they own.

Imagine if there was no black market over which to fight. Maybe all that violence you attribute to guns is actually the fault of failed government policies based around attempting to prohibit access to things people want that could be gotten peacefully absent state intervention.

[AtheistCrusader]

9. Cool beans. I need one of each.

Need the Garand for my Allied WWII weapons group, and the Carbine for my (future) Harley.

[TheWraith]

13. You intend to carry an M1 Carbine on your Harley?

Wouldn't an SKS or a Mini-14 be just as effective and cheaper? Not just for the gun, but for the ammo.

[AtheistCrusader]

14. Sacrelidge.

Nothing else belongs on a 1942 WLA.



Edit: Well, I suppose a Thompson or Garand would be acceptable.

[one-eyed fat man]

15. I beg to disagree

The classic weapon for the WLA is the M1928A1 Thompson submachinegun.



I suppose a carbine would be acceptable if you didn't live in a Free State.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. I don't live in a free state.

But I do have a semi-auto.

Still, I want the Carbine. (I think I edited my post after you saw/started typing)

[one-eyed fat man]

17. R. Lee understands

the sights and sounds of FREEDOM!

We ARE a free state!

[TheWraith]

18. Ahh, a period piece!

That's alright then. I had these horrible images of an antique rifle sitting holstered on a dirt bike or something. :D

And I'd second your choice of the M1 Carbine. I imagine the Thompson would be bulky with the full size magazines, and the greater weight of the Garand might throw off the balance.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. Yeah, I'd have to find a different rifle to go with a Harley MT350.

Being that it was sold to the UK, maybe I could get away with a Para-FAL and no one would complain...

[lawodevolution]

21. And one thing to consider is all the free advertisement the antis did

For these guns, so they will sell fast. A lot of people are going to buy them just to get a gun that was banned from importation

[PavePusher]

23. Every time someone buys a gun...

a puppy pees in Sarah Brady's shoe closet.

Must be flooded in there. One can hope....

[jazzhound]

30. That was beautiful, PavePusher! NT

[old mark]

40. I must have ruined an awful lot of her shoes!

The very thought makes me smile!


mark

[The Green Manalishi]

25. Two 'D''s!!!

I can't wait to put this right in the face of several 'Dem's is gonna take yer guns' people I know. :headbang:

[RSillsbee]

26. Perhaps if that plank were removed from the Party's platform

They'd believe you

[The Green Manalishi]

37. I know, I know, I know

:grr:

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

29. Are they .308 or .30-06 garands.

If they're .308 and still sold @ CMP prices I'll buy one.

[oneshooter]

31. All M1's were chambered in 30-06. n/t

[slackmaster]

32. There is a kludgy modification that involves pressing a piece into the chamber to make it 7.62 x 51

They suck.

[oneshooter]

33. Very dangerous. You never know when it might come out.

New barrels are $150-200, install,chamber and time another $200.

Oneshooter
Armed anf Livin in Texas

[AtheistCrusader]

35. kB! never never never ever do that ever. Ever.

[one-eyed fat man]

38. As today is Veteran's Day

There's no reason these 'veterans' shouldn't come home. Where else is the stark difference between freedom and repression in greater evidence than across the 38th Parallel?

The soldiers that sacrificed to win that freedom are in their eighties, to preserve a few of the rifles they carried is a fitting tribute.