Pistol-packing store owner thwarts machete-wielding robber..

[spin]

Friday, November 12, 2010
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=WT&Date=20101112&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=11120529&Ref=AR&MaxW=740
Bradford Taylor is seen at the Route 148 Liquor and Convenience store in Oakham with his Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol. (T&G Staff/JIM COLLINS)

OAKHAM — Standing behind the counter of the package store he's owned for more than 17 years, Bradford S. Taylor admitted yesterday that he doesn't ever want to kill anybody.

But when a machete-wielding would-be robber strode into the store about 7 p.m. Wednesday, he thought he might have to.

“He came in at a good clip,” said Mr. Taylor, a former part-time police officer who left the local force in 1992. “He was all in black, with a bandana across his face, and it's funny — my first thought was Halloween. Then he said, ‘Give me the money.' ”

Mr. Taylor thinks he may have “snickered a little” at the sight of the Ninja-like man. The would-be robber responded by slapping the 30-inch machete on his hand and uttering something like, “I'm not (expletive) kidding,” as he made a move to get behind the counter.

“Then I drew down on him,” Mr. Taylor said, patting his 9 mm Smith & Wesson in the holster at his side. “He was definitely serious; until I got more serious. I always carry.”

When the man saw the gun, his eyes widened, Mr. Taylor said, then he turned and ran from the store.

***snip***

In Oakham, Mr. Taylor said, robbers are taking a real chance.

“We have one of the highest per capita rates for pistol permits in the state,” he said. “People think we're an easy mark out here, but we're not. If you're coming out here to break into someone's house or establishment, you better think twice.”

Police Chief Donald A. Haapakoski said that is true. More than half the town's population is licensed to carry firearms.

There are 1,940 residents, and between 900 and 1,000 can legally arm themselves, he said.

http://www.telegram.com/article/20101112/NEWS/11120529/-1/NEWS05

[DainBramaged]

1. And you wouldn't have posted this if they had an axe

:eyes:

[Kennah]

2. True

It would belong in the Axe Topic Forum.

[spin]

5. I wouldn't have posted it in the Gungeon ...

perhaps in GD.

You don't find many instances of self defense with an ax, you do with firearms.

The actual reason I posted it was the number of armed people in the town licensed to carry firearms.

"There are 1,940 residents, and between 900 and 1,000 can legally arm themselves."

I wonder why so many people decided to get carry licenses in a small town in a very liberal state like Massachusetts.

[Name removed]

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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[spin]

20. Note that it started out in the Gungeon ...

as "Discussion of gun-related public policy issues or the use of firearms for self-defense belong in the Guns Forum.

Note the word discussion which is defined as "consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate."

Rather than merely throwing out accusations that I am proselytizing, why not participate in a productive debate? My object is not to convert you to an individual with a concealed carry permit, but merely to have an interesting debate.

[DainBramaged]

22. Of course, get my post deleted, great way to have a discussion.

Cya, anther addition to my ignore list.

[X_Digger]

24. You you you.. everything's about you, isn't it? LOL! n/t

[spin]

25. Note: I never have alerted the mods to a post ...

Why would I do that. I'm not even sure why your post was deleted, I don't remember anything in your post that I considered offensive in the least. I was actually looking forward to a good back and forth with you. I come here to debate and I don't get disturbed if someone insults me. To me, if the person I am having a discussion with has to resort to calling me names, then I know I've won the discussion.

I also do not use the ignore list.

Of course, since you added me to your ignore list, you will never read this answer and continue blaming me for something I didn't do.

That's sad.

[Hoopla Phil]

28. Ha Ha Ha. Make accusations, violate DU rules, bitch about post being deleted and then Ignore.

Oh that is just priceless!!!!

[howaboutme]

3. Never ever bring a knife to a gun fight

Good for the store owner.

[rfranklin]

14. Store Owner with Bat Chases Gun Wielding Robbers

Indiana Shop Owner Chases Would-be Robbers With Baseball Bat
Friday , August 24, 2007


INDIANAPOLIS —

A bat-wielding shop owner chased would-be robbers out of his convenience store and kept them from escaping until police officers arrived.

When the men climbed into a pickup truck outside, 26-year-old Gurmukh Singh used the bat to break out its windows and continued to chase them on foot, according to police and witness accounts.

Singh told police he became suspicious when two men wearing hooded sweatshirts entered his store shortly before 10 a.m. Wednesday when temperatures had already reached the 80s.

Click here to view surveillance video courtesy of indystar.com.

A store security video shows that when one of the men pulled a gun, Singh grabbed a baseball bat from behind the counter and swung it at him. When the men fled, Singh pursued them with the bat.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294336,00.html

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Aluminum or wooden?

Cork filled? Autograph model?

We need details.
:rofl:

[Glassunion]

17. They want to ban it in California...

[PavePusher]

23. Aaaaaaaiiiiiieeeeeee!

Scary ASSAULT BATS!!!1!1

What the hell is wrong with you twisted people?!?!?!

:rofl:

[spin]

26. I think we should register assault bats. That will solve the problem. (n/t)

[rfranklin]

31. There was no problem...

What are you talking about?

[spin]

32. makes just as much sense as registering assault weapons. (n/t)

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. IOW, gun control works.

Obviously, the asshole with the machete could not get one.

[slackmaster]

8. "6 feet tall and white, with a round face and short, light hair" is all we know about the assailant

Obviously, the asshole with the machete could not get one.

Not obvious at all from the information presented.

It may be that he chose to use a machete instead of a firearm.

Maybe your guess that he couldn't get a firearm is correct, but we don't have enough information to say whether that inability was the result of gun control, or from some other cause like lack of money.

[Name removed]

18. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[slackmaster]

19. Who are you callin' a "rightie"?

[spin]

21. Why do a high percentage of Democrats own firearms ...

source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/21496/gun-ownership-higher-among-republicans-than-democrats.aspx

[Hoopla Phil]

29. Lawful concealed carry works.

Obviously, the lawful carry of the firearm trumped the machete. You DO support shall issue concealed carry right?

[RSillsbee]

33. You can't possibly know that EOM

[Euromutt]

37. No, because then the store owner wouldn't have had a firearm...

...and would thus have been unlikely to be able to drive a machete-wielding robber to flight.

[spin]

6. Why does one half of the population of a small town in Massachusetts have carry permits ...

In Oakham, Mr. Taylor said, robbers are taking a real chance.

“We have one of the highest per capita rates for pistol permits in the state,” he said. “People think we're an easy mark out here, but we're not. If you're coming out here to break into someone's house or establishment, you better think twice.”

Police Chief Donald A. Haapakoski said that is true. More than half the town's population is licensed to carry firearms.

There are 1,940 residents, and between 900 and 1,000 can legally arm themselves, he said.

“I think it's a good thing,” said Chief Haapkoski, who will take over at the Rutland Police Department later this month. “People have the right to protect themselves. It's what the Constitution is all about.”

If a person is legally qualified for a firearms identification card or pistol permit, it's most likely the chief will give him one, though he does have the power to reject people by using his discretion.

The chief said Mr. Taylor is properly licensed and acted within his rights when he pulled the gun.
http://www.telegram.com/article/20101112/NEWS/11120529/-1/NEWS05

As a comparison Columbia County in Florida (a state known for having a high number of carry permits) has 2701 people with a concealed weapons permit. The population of Columbia County was estimated at 64,040 in 2005. Therefore the percentage of people with carry permits in this county is only 4%.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. Maybe it's proximity to the huge State Police training academy has something to do with it.

Maybe all the personnel live in Oakham. Oakham is a one-horse town, other than having that nearby. Who the hell knows.

I only knew one person from Oakham, and he was nuttier than a fruitcake.

[spin]

27. That's a good explanation.

I wasn't aware of the fact that the training academy was near.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. Yes, in New Braintree, 780 acre SP training facility.

Could be part of the reason, anyway:shrug:

[DainBramaged]

10. Gunshops doing the right fear advertising......

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. Actuatlly its more a case of people ignoring the anti gunners fear mongering

and doing the right thing

[rfranklin]

15. Like "African commie in White House! Buy up all the guns and ammo, quick!"

I couldn't find any 9mm ammo for about 6 months.

[friendly_iconoclast]

36. Yeah, it's just unpossible that they freely decided to arm themselves

I mean, it's gotta be some evil plan, amirite?

Hint: You'll get over it.

Here, have a cookie:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. Sounds like a real polite place to live

Its a Heinlein reference for the SciFi impaired

[Glassunion]

13. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? n/t

[PavePusher]

34. Bzzzzzt! Nope, try again? LOL.... n/t

[Euromutt]

38. Maybe it's because the local police chief isn't an asshole about issuing permits

And as a result, a lot of people who want to be able to own, and perhaps even carry, a firearm in the Commonwealth move to Oakham. Next year, you may see an influx of would-be gun owners moving to Rutland.

[spin]

40. Interesting. A year or two before I retired my company wanted me to go to Massachusetts ...

as a tech rep. I turned the offer down.

When my supervisor asked why, I told him that the gun laws in Massachusetts were too draconian for me and I refuse to go anywhere where I am treated as a second class citizen.

The look on my supervisor's face was priceless.

[PavePusher]

35. Obviously the criminal was emboldened by the machete...

amIright? How many points is that?

[spin]

39. A machete is one hell of a weapon ...

The bad guy could have easily chopped off the store owner's hand if he had been close enough.


Cold Steel Latin Machete

I have often chopped down small trees with a diameter of my wrist with one chop of a machete.

If I would have been the store owner, I would have simply emptied my 9mm pistol into him before he had any chance of swinging that machete at me.