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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:47 PM
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New gun law widens permit holders' rights

Sheriff Mike Van Otterloo holds up an example of what the gun permit cards issued in Plymouth County starting in 2011 might look like. Iowa legislators approved major changes to the gun permit laws this year.
Under Iowa's new weapons permit law -- starting in 2011 -- a person with a permit could openly walk down Central Avenue with a shotgun slung in a holster across his back.
Plymouth County Sheriff Mike Van Otterloo, explaining the changes to Iowa's permit laws, said such a situation would be legal, but not likely.
Those could include restrictions like being valid for concealed carry only or valid for handguns only or not valid while using or consuming alcohol or illegal drugs, according to the Iowa Department of Public Safety.
The law going into effect in 2011 removes that ability to put any kind of restrictions on nonprofessional permits to carry weapons.

More at:
http://www.lemarssentinel.com/story/1682033.html

Sounds like Iowa is entering the 21st century.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:19 PM
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1. One word: Madness.
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RogerBakwater Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:23 PM
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2. another word: insanity
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:35 PM
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3. I agree, madness. Iowa requires a license for open carry??!?!
Most of the country has shown that unlicensed open carry is not a problem.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:41 PM
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4. Thanks for weighing in, Maniac.
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AJAX22 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:41 PM
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5. I agree
People who are apt to cause problems don't fill out applications to inform you of their intention to do so.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:52 PM
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8. been that way in nc for ever(nt)
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:09 PM
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6. I'll put my money where my mouth is on this one, sharesunited
If Iowa's homicide rate goes up by 10% or more in the first full calender year this is implemented I'll buy you a donor star.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:25 PM
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7. Oh MY GHOD!
Arizona's going to be a bloodbath, any day now, amIright?

:tinfoilhat: :rofl:
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 02:27 PM
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15. Just wait, in no time at all ...
... concealed carry in Florida is gonna make blood run in the streets.

What?

It's been 23 years?

And there's still no blood?

Umm, er, ah, nevermind.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 04:28 PM
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16. One word: Freedom.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:54 PM
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9. I would not call that "entering the 21st century." Openly packing in public is hardly laudable.

Just my opinion,of course.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 07:55 PM
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17. And worth every penny we paid for it... n/t
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:23 PM
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10. Why would anyone want
to walk down Central Ave with a shotgun slung over their shoulder? Even if a covey of quail flushed.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:33 AM
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11.  In Texas it is legal to carry a fully loaded long arm openly.
The open carrying of long guns is generally allowed in Texas. However, Texas Penal Code Annotated § 42.01(a)(8) prohibits the display of a firearm in a public place in a “manner calculated to alarm.”


Oneshooter
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:03 AM
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12. That's similar to the law in NC. (n/t)
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:35 AM
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13. WTF does that mean?
"Calculated to alarm" by whom? The only person who could have made that "calculation" is the bearer, and absent mind-reading abilities, the best a LEO can do is ask him "Did you intend to cause alarm on the part of other members of the public, sir?" to which he will presumably answer "No, officer, I did not."
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 04:48 PM
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19. This leapt to mind for me...
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/gunman-vows-continue-carrying-ak-47-parks

A champion of the Second Amendment is vowing to exercise his constitutional rights by parading around Bicentennial Mall with a loaded AK-47 assault pistol slung across his back, but even fellow gun advocates are denouncing his behavior as a foolish publicity stunt.

The man identified by police as Leonard Embody, 37, already has caused a stir by donning miliary garb and going for a walk with his weapon at Radnor Lake State Park last weekend. Alarmed hikers alerted rangers, who detained Embody and questioned him in the parking lot. He showed them his state permit to carry a handgun, and he eventually was released without charges once police determined his weapon is a pistol and not a rifle.


But it's hard to make stupid illegal...
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 01:05 PM
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14. In Ohio, it's just plain legal.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 01:11 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
In ohio, people being alarmed by your openly carrying a firearm is not cause for arrest.
As long as the person carrying the firearm is behaving 100% legally, they cannot "incite panic".
Grnted, you can't brandish he firearm... that alone would be against the law.
But you can wear one.

I've walked out in public (city) with a loaded http://www.webarms.com/Gun%20Suppliers/dpms/dpms%20308%20Classic.htm">LR308C Rifle (link) openly sling over my back - no big deal.
I've also got my haircut openly carrying a polished stainless 1911 45acp...
Got some weird looks from mommies @ the Best Cuts for that one. LOL!
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 09:16 PM
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20. Maybe try "Rolling down Rodeo with a shotgun" nt
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:10 AM
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21. Just a quiet peaceful dance for the things we'll never have. nt
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 04:35 PM
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18. Ga now has very little restrictions on carrying.
They abolished the public gathering limit. No more 1000 ft school rule. Can carry in your auto anywhere since it is an extension of your domicile.

Can carry in bars and can consume alcohol.

Can carry open or concealed but cannot "flash".

Two counties have laws on the books that say every home is required to have a gun. (not enforsed)

A carry permit is easy to obtain and requires no training.
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