MOST TERRIFYING GUN IN THE WORLD SEIZED

[demsrule4life]

THE first fully automatic handgun to surface in the UK - capable of firing 1,100 rounds a minute - has been seized in a police raid.

Oh god could this be the weapon of choice by Godzilla?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13857329_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-THE-MOST-TERRIFYING-GUN-IN-THE-WORLD----AND-IT-HAS-JUST-BEEN-SEIZED-ON-OUR-STREETS-name_page.html

[beevul]

1. I just heard...

"Oh god could this be the weapon of choice by Godzilla?"


through the grapevine that hes on his way to smash up the police department there, get that gun, then bust some caps in nessie!!!:evilgrin:


Edited to add the quote for clarity

[kenth]

2. So,

does that still make it less terrifying than fully automatic rifles, or does it have one honking big ass clip?

[Withergyld]

3. Hmm 1100 rounds per minute and a 19 rnd mag???

Lets do some math here.
1100/ 60 = 18.33333 rounds per second

<sarcasm>This seems like it would be a VERY effective weapon.<sarcasm>
You can empty the magazine in about 1 second, then you have to reload!
Sounds more like a good way to waste ammunition.

[alwynsw]

5. I once had a sear break on a S&W semi auto pistol

Needless to say, it went full auto. I didn't have time to release the trigger before it emptied - but with a broken sear, that wouldn't have mattered - it would have emptied itself anyway.

The rangemaster almost crapped his pants. I think I did.

Anyway, even in 9mm, the thing was almost uncontrolable. Without a foregrip - or even with one, full auto handguns are virtually uncontrolable. Seems like a waste of time and money to me. Unless you're looking to kill several people in a steel lined room and rely on richtochets to do the job.

[RoeBear]

48. Make sure that...

...you're not in the steel lined room, too.

[solinvictus]

52. At 1100 rds/minute....

how many minutes of ammunition can one carry in those mighty 19 round magazines?

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4. Talk about tabloid journalism...

*********UPDATE************

Scotland Yard releases photo of suspect wanted in "worlds most terrifying gun" case. Citizens are urged to use extreme caution and alert local authorities if they spot this crazed individual.

[alwynsw]

6. I didn't know that Brits could fly!

"If it was fired on the streets of London by someone unused to its immense firing capability, there could be a massacre.

Didn't this guy ever hear of muzzle jump or climb as it is often called? After the first couple of rounds, the shooter would just be hitting the sky. Damn recoil anyway.

[RoeBear]

49. Oh no that's not true...

...it had a compensator.

"It has a compensation device to keep it straight during firing."

Apparently a magic compensator, for nothing in the real world could accomplish that.

[Superfly]

7. Not to worry...

A person firing 1100 rounds a minute from a Glock will not hit a damned thing.

[slackmaster]

8. One or two rounds at best

But they are kind of fun to shoot.

[Superfly]

9. Same thing as firing from the hip...

very fun to do, but you can't hit a thing.

[demsrule4life]

10. What a steaming pantload

Sara says you can.

[beevul]

11. Who are you trying to kid Dems!!

Ask me next if godzilla Godzilla has a CCW!

I'm not the one pimping for green scaly monsters to pack peashooters.:evilgrin:

[demsrule4life]

12. Godzilla dont need no ficking CCW

[beevul]

14. Tell it to nessie Dems!! N/T

[Township75]

15. Too Too Funny, Dems...

hand us another laugh!

[demsrule4life]

16. Cry me a river

[Township75]

17. Peddle that rubbish to someone who cares, Dems!

!

[demsrule4life]

19. HaHaHaHaHaHa

[alwynsw]

20. Go peddle that steaming pantload to AshKKKroft

[Superfly]

21. OK...knock it off you asswipe lunatics....

Can't we just dicuss the issues?

[demsrule4life]

24. Tell it to Dems

he is always starting those threads on the non existent British bloodbaths.

[alwynsw]

25. Hahahahahahahahahaha

(Did I get that right?)

[demsrule4life]

26. Why dont you ask Nugent?

[Township75]

27. Yeah, ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ight

.

[demsrule4life]

31. BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!

I have to thank Co for that one.

[alwynsw]

32. Ask me if I give a crap

[MrSandman]

45. I don't have to wallow in this sewer...

to know it's full of shit.

[beevul]

23. Yeah, a river of blood...

"Mothra down, 2 larvae slain, Rodan recovering at Mt. Fuji...Ghidora in hiding quoted as saying "We need better gun control".

The corrupt gun industry is directly responsible for arming Godzilla.
Without that gun, this tragedy would have been avoided. I hope those other nice monsters SUE the corrupt and dishonest gun industry for all its worth.

Do it for nessie!!


Next tell me that its a phony bloodbath!!

[alwynsw]

33. Got a link for that?

[Withergyld]

34. here is the link:

www.moreguncontrollies.com
:cry:

edited for spelling

[demsrule4life]

37. How many dog turds do you need to eat

before you realize it ain't candy.

[MrBenchley]

46. Evidently the RKBA crowd

gobbles them all....

[demsrule4life]

47. Too frigging funny....

[MercutioATC]

13. www.metalstorm.com Now THAT's a gun!

www.metalstorm.com

[slackmaster]

18. metalstorm has problems getting out of the prototype stage

Their specs sound awsome and their animations and pictures are cool enough, but they don't have anything in production AFAIK.

[Superfly]

22. I really can't see the application of this gun

unless you want to put 1,000,000 bullets into your target, what's the use?

[alwynsw]

28. But! You have to admit, 60,000 rpm is way cool!

But I still prefer "BANG" over "beep".

Does it let you fire it if your seatbelt is unfastened?

[Superfly]

29. The most expensive gun in the world....

1,000,000 caseless rounds of what looks like 30 cal, proprietary can't be very cheap. I bet the radar return on a cloud of lead in the air would freak out some ATC guys, tho.

[alwynsw]

30. Too cool

I never considered the radar return.

[MercutioATC]

36. You'd definitely get one. We can see bunches of mylar balloons.

[MercutioATC]

35. Vehicle-mounted weapons system.

Agreed, I can't see many practical stationary applications, but on a helicopter or Humvee? Devastating, especially as a mobile anti-missile defense (just send up a wall of bullets).

Granted, a million rounds a minute might not ever be used, but it's scalable and operates with no moving parts and very low power consumption (equivalent to a few flashlight batteries).

[Superfly]

39. ADA? Maybe...

but just remember, what goes up must come down. Point defense weapons systems like the phalanx destroy incoming missiles with kinetic energy rounds like bullets at very close ranges.

I can just see an army employing this metal storm thingie to defend a base camp, where an incoming missile is basically coming straight down. So, you throw up 1,000,000 bullets over your tent city where all your soldiers are sleeping....and then add the fragmented missile and you have one hell of a "metal storm" on your hands.

Me, I'd rather rely on Patriot (PAC-3) or THAAD, where the engagement of incoming missiles takes place well down range.

[MercutioATC]

43. Point taken...maybe a second line of defense on ships...

[Superfly]

44. That's about the only thing I can see using this for

since Phalanx is a hell of a system, this one could be used for last chance stuff.

[MrBenchley]

38. Amazing

Guess the RKBA crowd thinks its great that a criminal would have something like this...and thinks it's hilarious that anyone would be concerned.

[Superfly]

40. Go peddle that rubbish....

awww. you know the rest.

[demsrule4life]

41. elsewhere

[Superfly]

42. Thanks....that's the word I was looking for...

...

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50. What's hilarious...

Is the overblown hysteria and sensationalism by the media and police.
They found a full-auto pistol... not a MIRV.

(Given the Brits tendency to be ignorant of firearms, it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't full auto at all).


Ahhhhhh.... full auto Glocks!!!... High pressure hoses! Armor piercing ammo!

[Superfly]

51. You might have to explain to our esteemed colleague

what a MIRV is....

[alwynsw]

54. MIRV?

Didn't he used to do a TV talk show and own a casino or two?

[MrBenchley]

53. In other words

they're not callous idiots with a gun fetish, and see it as something that ought not to be in civilian hands.

You're right. That IS a big laugh. What a shame that it hadn't been used to shoot some of those silly Brits....I'd bet you guys would think that was even funnier.

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55. Surrrrrrrrrrrre

Hand us another laugh. Read what I posted.

Re-read the original article... "MOST TERRIFYING GUN IN THE WORLD SEIZED"... "Monster of a weapon"... "If it was fired on the streets of London by someone unused to its immense firing capability, there could be a massacre"... "It would probably be the ultimate in gun status-symbols"... "It's extremely worrying that such a weapon is here. I can't stress enough just how dangerous this gun is".

Is this credible and unbiased journalism? Nahhhh, just something to scare the sorry sods and sheeple into believing there's a gun problem.

The Mirror could have done a dry and cut article about the facts of the case, but they didn't... that's the laugh.

FWIW, I trust British journalism only slightly more so than I trust anything from the former Soviet Union or Russia.

"Callous idiots"? "Gun fetish"? "Civilian hands"?... Where do you come up with these things?

[MrBenchley]

56. Hard not to come up with them

in a thread like this

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58. Pretty much what I expected as a response.

Dude, I find you amusing at times, but it's starting to get like the drunken party guest with the lampshade on his head... funny at first but after awhile the joke isn't as funny anymore. Never mind ask "Mary Rosh", lets ask "Bob Boudalang".

[Township75]

59. Hard not to come up with them...

when you don't have anything else to argue with so you are reduced to one liners.

Now go peddle your rubbish to someone stupid enough to believe it....speaking of which, how come you aren't using some of your old lines anymore? If you're not going to use the old, you could at least come up with something new

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

57. I especially liked this part

"It is not issued to any agencies in the UK and is believed to have been imported from the US."

And then goes on to say

"SAS officers use the gun in combat with a 19-round magazine. Israeli security forces and Germany's GSG-9 anti-terror unit also carry it."

Is Scotland no longer part of the UK? :P So an agency next door to Scotland has them, but this one must have come from the US. According to the article they have been banned from US importation for 18 years, but this one came from the US. Let us not also forget that the Glock 18 was introduced in 1986, how many made it to the US ahead of the ban is anyone's guess, but they would still be a registered Class III NFA firearm even if they made it here before the ban.

Other great snippets...

"The report said the Glock can fire "armour-piercing ammunition". "

Yeah, and so can any other firearm in a caliber for which AP ammunition has been made.

"The ultra-light, Austrian-made gun"...

No lighter than any other polymer framed pistol.

"It has a compensation device to keep it straight during firing."

so it is really a Glock 18C, which Glock itself discontinued because of the compensator's location blackening or blowing the front sight blade off. Ever try to hit anything without a front sight on a pistol? You'd do more damage by throwing the pistol at your target. According to the Glock FAQ, only about 7 Glock 18C's were ever made. http://www.glockfaq.com/rare.htm#g18c

"British armed police use the semi-automatic Glock 17, also a favourite with criminals."

And the difference between a Glock 17 and Glock 18 (for all intents and purposes) is a selector switch! That switch which basically turns a mild mannered Glock 17 into a Glock 18 which will burp out 19 rounds in a second. Oh, the Glock 18C would have a barrel that is one inch longer, scary!

[RoeBear]

60. My favorite quote from the article...

..."Why even a criminal would want to own such a gun is beyond me".

Maybe they think they have more thoughtful criminals in England, ones whose thought process goes like this:

"I 'could' use this gun that someone smuggled into the country, but it wouldn't really be fair or kind for me to do that. Ta-ta, cheerio, off to tea".

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[1a2b3c]

62. Interesting... Its the Glock 18

From the article: It is a Glock 18, banned from sale in the US and described as a "monster of a weapon" that fires bullets with the intensity of a high- pressure water hose.

A Met firearms expert said: "It's extremely worrying that such a weapon is here. I can't stress enough just how dangerous this gun is.

The report said the Glock can fire "armour-piercing ammunition". It has a compensation device to keep it straight during firing.

America banned its import in 1986. US arms expert Walt Rauch said: "Shooting the G18 full-auto is just like turning on a high-pressure hose,"

Now from the Glock website: http://www.glock.com/g18.htm The law enforcement and military issue GLOCK 18 select-fire machine pistol is virtually identical to the full-size GLOCK 17, but with the addition of a selector switch on the left rear of the slide that allows fully automatic fire.

So it looks to me like this gun is way too dangerous for me, but Barney Fife can pick one up. Remember those cops in New York that shoved a broken broom stick up some guys ass while interigating him??? They can get one of these MONSTERS. This guy can can get one http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/1803411/detail.html Lets just pray he shoots his wife with his Glock model 17 and not the model 18 for fucks sake.

Ohh and speaking of New York, i found some dangerous glock 18 mags for sale with only a quick click of the mouse. http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=15248553 But you need to show paperwork proving that you are a supercitizen who holds more rights than the rest of us pion citizens. Man i think i might just become a police officer so i can have all these superpower rights to firearms that the rest of us dont have. The assault weapons ban??? Not if i was a supercitizen