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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 01:46 AM
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I thought I'd seen it all from the bradys.
I thought I had seen it all when paul helmke said "We're not a gun ban organization. We don't push for gun bans", back in 2008.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-helmke/nra-gun-licensing-and-reg_b_110778.html


But then I see this:

“not suited for hunting or personal protection,” said Paul Helmke, the president of the Brady Campaign. “What it’s good for is killing and injuring a lot of people quickly.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10collins.html?_r=2&hp

There ya have it. Hes not talking about the magazine, hes talking about the handgun itself. What hes quoted as saying is an outright lie.

Does anyone really think theyre the choice of the "flatfoot" (city cop/sheriff) by and large, because your average flatfoots job is "killing and injuring a lot of people quickly"...or that your average LEO would use them if theyre "they're not suited for personal protection"?

How can anyone support them, even if they dislike the nra and guns?


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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 01:51 AM
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1. A 9mm Glock is "not suitable for personal protection"?
Since when?

What would he prefer we arm ourselves with? BB guns? Fluffy pillows?
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:05 AM
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2. Consider the source
Helmke is a reactionary moron.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:06 AM
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3. Paul thinks Citizens should only be armed with pure hearts and good intentions.
'Cause that's what muggers, rapists and murderers respect.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:08 AM
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4. I'll ask the home invaders or burglars to hold my hands and sing Kumbiyah
Or I can aim my XDm at them before they get anywhere near my family.

Hmm...tough choice.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:10 AM
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5. Don't they just want cookies and milk?
And maybe a hug?
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 01:43 PM
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9. Harsh language and sarcasm...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 12:27 AM
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15. Harsh language and the comfy chair


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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:42 AM
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16. I certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:45 AM
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17. I've heard...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:11 AM
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:10 AM
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7. "and only perfectionals need guns"








note: this is a swipe at Helmke the 3-term Republican Mayor, not our LEO's.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:43 PM
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10. She has the magazine in backwards. She will be real disappointed if she tries to shoot. N/T
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:46 AM
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18. D'oh!
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:57 AM
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19. You forgot the most important one Krispos!!!
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Pullo Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 11:56 AM
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8. So now the Brady's want to ban Glocks ........
I suppose Springfield XD's, 1911's, and every other semi-auto pistol "not suited for personal protection" should go too, according to them. Never mind these are the most popular types of self defense handguns being sold today.

They should just change back to their original name, Handgun Control Inc. You know Paul Helmke is lying when his lips are moving. Of course they are a gun ban organization.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 02:51 PM
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11. Paul is lying when he breathes.
Would it be "hate speech" or something if I said I wish he'd stop lying?
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:06 PM
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12. Just wait until they latch on to the story about
Heckler Koch selling guns under the table to LEO's in Mexico.


"GUN MANUFACTURERS ARE CONTRIBUTING DIRECTLY TO THE GUN VIOLENCE IN MEXICO......"
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:31 PM
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13. Always remember he is a Republican from a long line of Republicans ...

Paul Helmke

Walter Paul Helmke, Jr. (born 1948) is an American politician, and president of the Washington, DC-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He has held this position since mid-July 2006.<1> He is a former mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana and a former president of The United States Conference of Mayors.

***snip***

Political career

Helmke defeated Democratic incumbent Mayor Winfield C. Moses, Jr. in 1987. Helmke won re-election in 1991 and 1995. He did not seek re-election in 1999.<1>

In 1980, Helmke ran in the Republican primary for the then Fourth Congressional District open seat in Indiana to replace Dan Quayle who was running for U.S. Senate; he was defeated by Dan Coats, who later went on to serve as U.S. Senator from Indiana. In 1998, he won the Republican primary for the U.S. Senate to replace retiring incumbent Republican Dan Coats, but lost to Democrat Evan Bayh in the general election. In 2002, Helmke unsuccessfully challenged incumbent U.S. Representative Mark Souder in the Republican primary for the Third Congressional District in Indiana.

Family politics

His father, Walter P. Helmke, had been elected as an Indiana state senator and county prosecutor. The senior Helmke was the Republican nominee for U.S. Congress in Indiana's Fourth District in 1974. Mayor Helmke's grandfather, Walter E. Helmke, had also served as Allen County Prosecutor and had been the Allen County Republican County Chairman. Walter E. Helmke was also one of the leading candidates for the Republican nomination for Governor of Indiana in 1948 but was defeated at his party's state convention. Walter E. Helmke also has the Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne main research facility building named after him.

Mayor Helmke's brother, Mark, has served as Press Secretary to U.S. Senator Richard Lugar, as a Washington lobbyist, and as a staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Mark Helmke is a former reporter for the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Helmke


And always remember how Democrats lost many close elections because of their position on Gun Control which usually was the same as the views of the Brady Campaign.

If the Brady Campaign can stir up support among Democrats for ideas like banning Glock pistols they can help the Republican Party have a better chance of gaining control of both houses and the Presidency in the next election.


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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 11:03 PM
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14. other anti-gun individuals on this site have written in the same post that they don't want to ban my...
guns and then talked about how we need to ban guns that I own. Get used to it, mentally ill people often contradict themselves like this.
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