Defensive Gun Uses - January 2004.

[beevul]

1 - Feel free to add any pertinent stories to this thread by replying to this message. In order to be considered pertinent, stories should have taken place within the month in the title.

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6 - Since this thread might be kicking around for a month, lets keep the flames and whatnot outside this thread. We are all or nearly all (with respect to teen age folks) adults and should be able to act civilized in at least 1 discussion a month with people we disagree with.

[beevul]

1. Store Owner Shoots Alleged Robber TX

"Store Owner Shoots Alleged Robber"

"A southeast Houston convenience store owner shot an alleged robber Tuesday afternoon, police told News2Houston."

"Investigators said a man walked into the Lawndale Food Mart, 5545 Lawndale, around 12:45 p.m. and tried to rob the owner. The suspect was armed with a knife. The owner then pulled a gun and shot the man, before he could get to the money."


""(The suspect) charged him with a knife behind the counter and attempted to rob him. It was an attempted robbery," said James Rachel, with the Houston Police Department."



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040106/lo_kprc/1945863

[beevul]

2. Man shot in robbery attempt, police say PA

"Man shot in robbery attempt, police say"

By The Tribune-Review
Sunday, January 4, 2004



"A Hill District man was shot and wounded by a clerk while trying to rob a Webster Avenue grocery store, police reported."

"A clerk at Ann's Market shot Joshua McKenzie, 18, after he pulled a silver handgun Friday night while he and another man were trying to rob the store, police said. Police said McKenzie is expected to survive his injuries. He was to be arraigned yesterday at UPMC Presbyterian hospital, Oakland, on robbery and firearms violation charges."


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/pittsburgh/s_172999.html

[MrBenchley]

8. Defending against a gun

[TyroneStryker]

33. So?

[alwynsw]

45. What a pantload

Now the assailant/criminal has a gun - or not, yet he's defending himself against the intended victim?

make that a steaming pantload.

[RoeBear]

65. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[Withergyld]

87. And what would you suggest as the proper response to this situation??

Should they have used SNiVeL????

http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/snivel.htm

[DoNotRefill]

95. a gun being used illegally

eom

[beevul]

3. Suspect in burglary shot in face NY

"Suspect in burglary shot in face"

Staff report


"(January 4, 2004) — CLIFTON SPRINGS — Ontario County sheriff’s deputies said a man is recovering from facial injuries after he was shot by a homeowner early Saturday."

"Deputies said a resident of 1294 King Road called 911 to report a burglary in progress after hearing glass break and seeing someone outside the home with a flashlight at 2:19 a.m."

"While the caller waited for deputies to arrive, the suspect attempted to lift a rear window to gain entry into the home."

"A man inside the house got a .22-caliber rifle from his bedroom and fired three rounds through the window, deputies said. The suspect, who was struck in the face by one round and numerous glass shards, was found on Route 96, they said."



http://www.rochesterdandc.com/news/0104LS2R1FR_news.shtml

[beevul]

4. Mother Defends Children Against Robbers OH

"Mother Defends Children Against Robbers"


"A Columbus mother grabbed a gun and defended her family against armed robbers. Columbus police say four juveniles with a gun kicked in the door of a home on North Roys Avenue near West Broad Street early this morning. A mother in a bedroom fired on the robbers to defend herself and her two young children. One suspect was hit in the buttocks. He dropped his gun and all four fled."

"Less than ten minutes later, police got a call from a home on North Wheatland Avenue on a report of a shooting. Police found the four and determined they were the robbers from Roys Avenue."

http://www.10tv.com/news/archive/010204local6746.php?story=010204local6746

[MrBenchley]

9. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

46. Cry me a frickin river

The criminal has no defense. He asked for what he got when he embarked on the crime.

[RoeBear]

67. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[DoNotRefill]

96. a gun being used illegally

eom

[slackmaster]

5. Shooting puts law to a test - IL

A College of DuPage football player who prosecutors said fired a fatal bullet at a fellow student in Lisle won't face murder charges because of a state law that allows a resident to defend himself against a home intruder.

Brian W. Hall, 18, and three co-defendants appeared in court Friday for the first time since prosecutors approved charges in this week's shooting at Benedictine University....

...But Hall, formerly of North Chicago, faces the least charges despite being accused of shooting Miller. Prosecutors charged Hall, a defensive back, with two misdemeanors for not having a valid firearm owner's identification card.

DuPage County State's Attorney Joseph Birkett said Hall was justified under the state's "defense of dwelling" statute, which allows residents to use lethal force, if someone breaks into their home, to prevent an assault.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cdh/20040124/lo_cdh/shootingputslawtoatest

[beevul]

6. Police: Homeowner Kills Alleged Intruder

"Police: Homeowner Kills Alleged Intruder"

"Authorities: Man Was Protecting Himself, Wife"

"SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Sacramento police are investigating a fatal shooting involving a homeowner and a pair of alleged intruders in his home."

" Police said the homeowner, whose name has not been released, told officers that he and his wife heard a knock at their front door about 8:30 a.m. They found two Hispanic teenage boys at the door who said they were looking for the man's grandson."

"After being told the grandson was not at home, police said the two came back a second time, but this time the homeowner was armed with a gun when he answered the door."

"The same two male Hispanic teens forced their way into the residence. One of them was armed with a handgun. The (homeowner) retreated and took cover behind a chair where he does exchange a couple rounds of fire," Sacramento Police Department Sgt. Justin Risley said."

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/2747895/detail.html

[MrBenchley]

10. Defending against a gun

[slackmaster]

12. If you want to play that game

Then you really ought to consider whether or not the assailant who was armed with a gun had obtained the gun legally. I'll wager that in at least 95% of these cases the answer to that question would be no.

The attempted devaluation of a DGU by saying "defense against a gun" seems to be rooted in a magical thought that if we could just click our heels together and say "There's no place like home" enough times that guns could be un-invented or at the least all guns presently in circulation or that might be manufactured in the future could come under such strict control that criminals couldn't get them.

I'll believe that fairy tale when the black market for heroin dries up permanently.

[TyroneStryker]

34. So?

[alwynsw]

47. Go peddle that to someone who gives a crap

The criminal in this case is the AGRESSOR. Wait. Let me spell that a little slower for the sake of comprehension A G R E S S O R. Agressors attack, potential victims defend.

[RoeBear]

66. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[DoNotRefill]

97. a gun used illegally....

eom

[beevul]

7. Jeff Foxworthy Offers Reward for Poacher/Trespasser GA

"Foxworthy's property caretaker -- Glenn Garner -- told state wildlife investigators he confronted the intruder and told the man to put down his gun. Garner says the man raised the gun to his shoulder to fire. Garner says he shot at the man and ran behind his vehicle for cover."

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_45270.asp

[MrBenchley]

11. Defending against a gun

[slackmaster]

13. I can't wait to see this contributor's response

When someone posts about a person using a gun to defend against someone armed with a knife.

My money is on "A gun wasn't needed because the assailant was only armed with a knife."

[TyroneStryker]

35. Thanks for the update...so?

[alwynsw]

48. Gee, Dems

The A G G R E S S O R is always on the defense.

[DoNotRefill]

98. a gun being used illegally

eom

[beevul]

14. Update On Apartment Shooting Inicdent CO

"One of two intruders involved in a shooting at an apartment earlier this week is out on bond, but faces possible kidnapping, burglary and menacing charges as a result of the break-in. Grand Junction police say Claudio Baca and his yet un-named companion broke down the door at 517 28 1/2 Road Tuesday afternoon. A police report says Baca was looking for Jessica Stauter because the woman owed him money. Stauter stayed at the apartment Monday night but left earlier in the day. Resident Joseph Moyano heard his apartment door being kicked open. He retrieved his handgun and went to his bedroom door. He ordered the men to leave. Instead the intruders backed Moyano into his bedroom. When he tried to call police, the un-named intruder knocked the cell phone from Moyano's hand, while Baca tried to grab Mayono's gun. The gun went off and the bullet hit Baca's companion."


http://www.kjct8.com/news/readnews.cfm?ID=2706

[beevul]

15. Combs gets his man. OK

"Combs gets his man"

"Then, as the truck and trailer by him passed by, Combs suddenly realized why the trailer seemed so familiar to him.
"He drove by and I thought 'Hey, that's my trailer!'" Combs said."

"Already fed up after previous break-ins at the store, Combs swung his pickup behind the other driver. He tried to call 911, but wasn't sure if there was a link to Longtown so he wasn't surprised when that didn't work."

"As the driver in front of him started to pick up speed, Combs threw the phone in his pickup seat, pulled into the passing lane and grabbed a pistol he carried with him."

"I said 'Get out of your truck and keep your hands where I can see them,'" Combs recalled. He said he also ordered a woman who was with the driver out of the truck. He let a boy with them remain inside the vehicle, he said."


"The sheriff's department then launched an investigation that led to the recovery of an estimated $75,000 in stolen property."

http://mcalesternews.com/articles/2004/01/16/news/local_news/news04.txt

[slackmaster]

25. Defending against a truck

[alwynsw]

61. Citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest!

I loved that episode.

[beevul]

16. Store co-owner shoots alleged armed robber LA

"Store co-owner shoots alleged armed robber"

Loresha Wilson
Posted on January 15, 2004




"Shreveport police Sgt. T.C. Jowers secures crime scene tape outside the Citgo at Line Avenue at East 70th Street after a robbery suspect was shot by a co-owner of the store. "

"Four hours after shooting the man who allegedly was robbing his family-owned gas station at gunpoint, Elvir Cehajic praised God for the one thing he was most thankful for Wednesday evening - his life."

""I'm just happy to be alive and to be with my family.""

"The 36-year-old reportedly fired two shots as a man took money from a cash register at Citgo at Line Avenue at East 70th Street in Shreveport about 11:30 a.m. Wednesday."

""He came in and pointed a gun at my head," Cehajic said. "It seemed like eternity, but it was just for a minute.""


http://www.shreveporttimes.com/html/4AE61761-D77C-44FF-9C1B-AB2D9F3D90C9.shtml

[MrBenchley]

18. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

49. Too funny for words

[RoeBear]

68. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[brothermak]

80. Key word....Defending

Everything else is irrelevant.

[DoNotRefill]

99. a gun being used illegally

eom

[beevul]

17. Suspected burglar in hospital after shot by homeowner NM

"Suspected burglar in hospital after shot by homeowner"

"Police say an Albuquerque resident apparently interrupted a burglary and ended up shooting the intruder."

"A man was visiting his neighbor when he thought he heard something at his home next door. He investigated and found his door unlocked."

"The intruder had a pipe and struck the resident, but the neighbor intervened. That allowed the victim to get a gun he had in the house and fire two shots, hitting the intruder at least once."

http://www.krqe.com/crime/expanded.asp?RECORD_KEY=ID&ID=2629

I can't get the link to work, but it you copy and paste the address in the address window it works.

[beevul]

20. Defense against a Pipe.

[slackmaster]

24. Your Papers, please

At least the "Defense against..." replies will keep the thread kicked.

:D

[beevul]

19. Cornerback confronted by gunman FL

"Cornerback confronted by gunman"

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Baltimore Ravens cornerback Corey Fuller exchanged gunfire with an intruder outside his home early Wednesday."

"Fuller and a house guest went outside to a car when they were confronted by the gunman at about 2:30 a.m. The man chased Fuller back into the house and then fled after about 20 shots were exchanged, police said. No one was injured."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1714616

[MrBenchley]

21. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

50. Who are you trying to kid?

[RoeBear]

69. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[DoNotRefill]

100. a gun being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

22. Hays man will not be tried for killing intruder TX?

"Hays man will not be tried for killing intruder"

"Resident shot man when he attacked officers, sheriff's office says"


"SAN MARCOS -- Stanley Hughson will not face prosecution for the fatal shooting of a North Carolina man who entered his house uninvited and later fought with authorities."

"Authorities said Lufuma, who was unarmed, entered Hughson's house on Old Stagecoach Road, about five miles south of Kyle, and refused to leave. Hughson called 911, and two deputies from the Hays County sheriff's office went to the house. They tried to arrest Lufuma, but he attacked them, according to the sheriff's office."

"Police in Raleigh told Lufuma's family that he reached for an officer's gun before he was shot, family members have said."

"Hughson shot Lufuma once as he tangled with the deputies. He ran away from the house and died before paramedics arrived, authorities said."

"I felt not only was my life in danger, but the life of my family," Hughson said Thursday"

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/auto/epaper/editions/friday/metro_state_f3ef068bd1b151f90069.html

I had to register for this source, but it was free.

[beevul]

23. Robbers run into problems trying to hold-up Missouri liquor store

"Robbers run into problems trying to hold-up Missouri liquor store"

"(Independence, Missouri) Jan. 10, 2004 - Two robbers ran into a major complication when they tried to rob a Missouri liquor store."

"The alleged robbers tried to rob Kern's Liquor Store in Independence, Missouri. But when the robbers ran stormed into the store, the clerk reached for his own gun."

"The clerk, Stephan Eads, took a bullet in the shoulder, but was able to open fire as the robbers took off out the door. Eads also called 911."

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1595548

[MrBenchley]

26. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

51. Too TOO funny

[RoeBear]

70. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[DoNotRefill]

101. a gun being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

27. Owner Kills Gunman in N. Phila. Grocery Store

Owner Kills Gunman in N. Phila. Grocery Store


A North Philadelphia store owner has shot and killed a man he says shot a store employee during an armed robbery attempt

http://www.kyw1060.com/news_archives_detail.cfm?newsitemid=34780


Credit to demsrule4life GUNS IN THE NEWS--January 26, 2004

[MrBenchley]

28. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

52. Yeah, ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght

[RoeBear]

71. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

[DoNotRefill]

102. a gun being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

29. 2 charged in home invasion Al

"Phillip Sain's son, Chad Sain, who arrived soon afterward, said that's when his dad armed himself and went to the front door. He was just in time to stop a man who Chad Sain said was armed with a nickel-plated .45-caliber handgun."

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040125/invasion.shtml

Credit to demsrule4life GUNS IN THE NEWS--January 26, 2004

[MrBenchley]

32. Defending against a gun

[TyroneStryker]

36. Defending against a criminal.

[alwynsw]

53. Hahahahahahahhaha....

[DoNotRefill]

103. a gun being used illegally....

eom

[beevul]

30. Store shooting ruled self-defense

"Store shooting ruled self-defense"

"A store clerk will not be charged with killing a customer because he was acting in self-defense, said 5th Circuit Deputy Solicitor John Meadors."

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/local/7611095.htm


Credit - demsrule4life GUNS IN THE NEWS--January 2, 2004

[slackmaster]

31. Defending against cans of beer and bare fists

:freak:

[beevul]

37. Robbery suspect shot in Sun City

Brent Whiting
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 14, 2004 12:00 AM

"SUN CITY - A robbery suspect was wounded Tuesday during an attempted noontime holdup at a strip-mall smoke shop."

"The suspect was shot twice by a merchant after he entered Smokers Domain, 10914 W. Bell Road, and brandished a weapon, authorities said."

"The bandit was wounded in the upper body when the owner of the business grabbed a gun from under the counter and fired."

"The suspect ended up with nothing for his effort except "a bunch of lead," said Capt. Ron Stoner, a Maricopa County Sheriff's Office supervisor."

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0114wvbanditshot14.html

[MrBenchley]

38. Defending against what he thought was a gun

[Columbia]

40. A criminal apologist?

Hmm... :eyes:

[slackmaster]

42. And you would have had him act differently? How and why?

:shrug:

[alwynsw]

54. Who the hell are you trying to kid?

[alwynsw]

63. Soooo, let me get this straight

In most states, a finger in a pocket simulating a gun is considered to be a gun in the eyes of the law. Yet, the implication of your post is that the potential victim of a crime who uses a similar tactic is...

AW hell. It ain't worth the bandwidth to argue this one.

[RoeBear]

72. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from pretending to have a gun? :)

[DoNotRefill]

104. a plastic gun being used illegally...

Was this one of hte plastic guns they're trying to ban?

[MrSandman]

62. Smoking crooks in Sun City?

[alwynsw]

64. Sun City, AZ. Home of more sowrn Sheriff;s Possee members

than any other place in the country. LMAO. Smart crook.

[beevul]

39. Patron shot by bartender is in serious condition IN

"Patron shot by bartender is in serious condition"

"An Indianapolis man remained in serious condition Friday after a bartender shot him in a case that police say was self-defense."

"Police say Cecil D. Sanders, 29, and another person had an altercation with a patron at the Sports Bench Tavern, 2023 Southeastern Ave., on Wednesday night. Police say Sanders then threatened to harm the bartender, John E. Hansen. As Sanders was coming over the bar, Hansen, 31, shot Sanders once in the chest."

"Staletovich said three witnesses and a videotape of the encounter support Hansen's story."

http://www.indystar.com/articles/6/112258-8096-009.html

[slackmaster]

41. Cops: Burgled homeowner called the shots - MA

From the Boston Herald Friday, January 23, 2004:

...The homeowner, whom police declined to identify, told detectives
he had just come out of the shower shortly before 1 p.m. when he heard
the back door being forced open.

The homeowner, who is licensed to possess firearms, confronted
the burglar and shot him in the shoulder, according to police....

...Stephen P. Callinan, 37, of Somerville was being treated at
Massachusetts General Hospital and was expected to be charged with
breaking and entering, police said. Police did not say whether
Callinan was armed.

The homeowner was questioned by detectives for several hours
yesterday at the Somerville police station and allowed to leave. He
later met with detectives at his home. Police declined to say whether
they are considering charges against the homeowner in connection with
the shooting.

In most states this would be clearly a lawful act of self-defense based on the information presented here. Massachusetts law is unusual in that regard and similar to England and Wales - You have to exhaust every possible means of escape from a threat before you can legally apply deadly force in your own defense.

In order to fend off likely criticism I'd like to note that the Boston Herald has a reputation as a conservative-leaning newspaper. This incident was not mentioned in the more liberal Boston Globe AFAIK.

[beevul]

43. Pit Bull Attacks 3, Survives Gunshot To Head FL

"Pit Bull Attacks 3, Survives Gunshot To Head"


""I felt like a 2-year-old helpless child," victim Jamie Garner said. "The only thing I could do was cry and ask somebody, please get the dog off me. But everybody was scared to come out of the house.""

"The dog stopped attacking one woman and attacked another's leg."

""Four bite holes and a big gash on this leg -- you can see all the way to my bone," Sabrina Harris told Local 6 News."

"Neighbors hit the dog with a stick and even shot it in the head, but the pit bull survived."


http://www.local6.com/news/2740322/detail.html

Edited to add link.

[beevul]

44. Burglary suspect remains hospitalized after being shot OK.

Burglary suspect remains hospitalized after being shot

By Troy Buchanan

"Richard Young, 65, shot Marshall after he allegedly discovered Marshall in his business at 24906 S. Highway 66. The business is listed as B&S Light Industries."

"Marshall had allegedly broken into the building and Young confronted him through a window."

"Elkin said Young stated Marshall was making “aggressive moves” and Young feared Marshall was going for a weapon."

"Young fired on Marshall, striking him once under the arm. Marshall was taken to St. Francis Hospital where he was treated for a single gun shot wound."

http://www.claremoreprogress.com/archive/article.php?sid=11751&mode=nested&order=0

[beevul]

55. Homeowner Reportedly Fires Shots At Intruders TX

"Homeowner Reportedly Fires Shots At Intruders"

"1 Intruder Flees On Foot; Other Leaves By Vehicle"

"HOUSTON -- A northeast Harris County homeowner opened fire on two people who invaded his home early Thursday morning."


"Officials told News2Houston the intruders broke into a home in the 21800 block of Baumgartner Drive around 2:15 a.m. "

"The intruders reportedly made it into the man's bedroom where the homeowner and a woman were asleep."

"The man woke up, grabbed his gun and started shooting as he chased the two intruders outside."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/2783985/detail.html

[beevul]

56. Customer Shoots, Kills Auto Shop Robber TX

"Customer Shoots, Kills Auto Shop Robber"

"2 Other Robbers Flee Scene; No Other Injuries Reported"

HOUSTON -- A customer caught in the middle of a store robbery Wednesday night fought back, killing one of the suspected robbers.

"Police told News2Houston three men wearing masks, carrying guns, kicked in the front door of Pawn's Tire and Wheelz on West Little York at Stuebner Airline in north Houston around 6:30 p.m."

""One of the suspects went to the rear of the business. There was a shooting between one of the customers and a suspect," Houston Police Department investigator Steve Straughter said."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/2784057/detail.html

[MrBenchley]

58. Defending against guns

[alwynsw]

60. Spin, spin, spin

[RoeBear]

73. What law would you have enacted...

...that would have prevented this criminal from having a gun?

There that was fun.

[DoNotRefill]

105. guns being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

57. Woman Pulls Weapon on Home Intruders GA

"Woman Pulls Weapon on Home Intruders"

"Armed with a 9mm handgun, a 44-year-old woman turned the tables on two would-be home invaders Thursday evening."

"Morrow police Chief Kenny Smith said Vanhxay Khottavong had left her home at 1028 Skylark Drive after 6 p.m. to make a financial transaction. At some point, two men – only described as Asian – deduced where Khottavong lived and that she was going to retrieve money."

"Police say they decided to return to Khottavong's home and wait for her. The men knocked on the door and were let in by the woman’s 25-year-old son. They assaulted the son and his father, who had been injured in a car accident and was in bed."

"Police say Khottavong and her son were struck while the two suspects escaped. She was later taken to Grady Memorial Hospital. The conditions of Khottavong and her son have not been released, but they were considered non-life threatening."

http://www.wxia11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=41656

[beevul]

59. Wife not charged in killing TX

"Wife not charged in killing"

"Grand jury decides no crime took place"

By Sara Lee Fernandez Caller-Times
January 16, 2004

"A Nueces County grand jury decided not to indict a 22-year-old woman arrested on charges of fatally shooting her estranged husband. "

"The jury dismissed the case against Noelle Richardson, who was accused of shooting John Washington Richardson in the face with a handgun on Dec. 10. Noelle Richardson could not be reached for comment Thursday."

""What great news about Noelle Richardson," said Catrina Steinocher, Women's Shelter of South Texas executive director. "This was not a crime of passion, or anything like that, that we like to write things off as. There had been a history of violence, and law enforcement had been called to her home more than once." However, Steinocher said, the shelter doesn't condone deadly force in domestic violence cases."

http://www1.caller.com/ccct/local_news/article/0,1641,CCCT_811_2581469,00.html

[beevul]

74. Resident Exchanges Gunfire With Home Invaders PA

"Resident Exchanges Gunfire With Home Invaders'

"PITTSBURGH -- One man is dead and another man is in critical condition following what appears to be an attempted home invasion in Pittsburgh's Homewood section, Channel 4's Kelly Frey reported."

"Two masked men armed with pump-action Mossberg shotguns tried to enter a home on Hale Street around 11:20 p.m. Sunday, according to police. One of the three people inside also had a gun, and shots were exchanged."

"Hammond's brother, Barry, told Frey that the situation began when they heard someone knock on the door and ask for help with a broken-down car. When they opened the door, the two men tried to come inside and started firing."

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/2757071/detail.html

[MrBenchley]

75. Defending against guns

[MrSandman]

76. Cry me a friggin river

[DoNotRefill]

106. guns being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

77. Several Area Robberies Over The Weekend Top Sunday's Street Beat

"Several businesses were robbed over the weekend, Including two
Stop-N-Save stores. Police say the robberies happened within a half
hour of each other."

"At both stores, investigators say a man wearing a black jacket and ski mask came into the store brandishing a silver handgun and demanding money."

"But at the Stop-N-Save on Western Avenue, the owner reportedly
pulled out his own gun and fire two shots at the suspect. The suspect
ran out without getting any money."

http://www.nbc24.com/Global/story.asp?S=1554489&nav=1aI5JX2D

[MrBenchley]

79. Defending against a gun

[alwynsw]

81. Go peddle this to someone who cares

[DoNotRefill]

107. a gun being used illegally...

eom

[beevul]

78. Joliet store owner fends off knife-wielding man IL

"Joliet store owner fends off knife-wielding man"

"JOLIET — A West Jefferson Street store owner may have fended off a would-be robber armed with a kitchen knife when he threatened to shoot him, police said."

"The owner told police he noticed the man was holding a kitchen knife, and he and his wife started to back away."

"The masked man repeatedly told him not to move, the owner said, and this frightened him."

"The owner told the intruder that he would shoot him if he did not leave, police said, and the masked man ran out of the store. He then fled east on Jefferson Street."

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/archives/j07cops.htm

[beevul]

82. Shootout at projects ends in fatality -San Fransisco

"Shootout at projects ends in fatality"

"The San Francisco medical examiner's office declined Saturday to release the name of a young man who was shot and killed by a security guard after a wild shootout between two men outside a San Francisco housing project Friday afternoon."

"The gunfire broke out at 4:50 p.m. Friday at the corner of Broderick and Sutter, and a security guard at the housing project responded to it, then yelled at one of the two men, police said. The young man allegedly pointed a gun at the guard, police said, and the guard shot him in the head."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/25/BAGN14H9VF1.DTL

[beevul]

83. Man killed in shootout with three officers WA

"Man killed in shootout with three officers"

"One man is dead following a car chase and shootout with King County sheriff deputies and a Federal Way police officer early this morning."

"When he noticed the officers in a nearby unmarked police vehicle, the man pulled out a gun and started shooting at the officers, Fagerstrom said. It isn't clear if the man knew that the men in the car were police officers."

"The man drove off in the stolen car, firing shots out his window towards the trailing King County Sheriff's vehicles. Several bullets struck at least one of the vehicles, Fagerstrom said. None of the officers were injured."

"Officers were able to ram the man's vehicle, causing it to spin out and hit a utility pole in the 23600 block of Pacific Highway South. The man got out of his car and attempted to run away while continuing to shoot at the officers. The officers fired back and the man was shot in the chest, Fagerstrom said."


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001726237_webshootout12.html

[beevul]

84. Gunman fatally wounded in La Mesa shootout CA

"LA MESA – Two California Highway Patrol officers shot and fatally wounded a gunman trying to carjack a woman's SUV at a busy farmers market Friday after he fired at the officers' cars during a chase, authorities said."

"Shoppers and vendors scrambled out of the way or hit the pavement as the officers fired on the sport utility vehicle. The man behind the wheel fell out, bleeding from numerous wounds."

""He was airlifted to a hospital and placed on life support. He later died. His name was not released Friday night."

""The suspect attempted to point his gun at the officers," said La Mesa police Lt. Raul Garcia."


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20040123-9999-1m24shots.html

[beevul]

85. Fontana man shot, killed by police after carjacking CA?

"Fontana man shot, killed by police after carjacking"

"Woman's quick thinking may have saved her life"

By STEPHEN WALL, STAFF WRITER

""He asked me if I had any money," said Rivera, 28, still shaking inside her husband's truck minutes after the incident. "I said I didn't. So he said he wanted to go to Fontana to get some. I tried to talk him out of it. I convinced him to come over here. I said I had a friend who would give me cash.""

"With a handgun inches from her head, Rivera nervously drove a few miles to Ashley Furniture Industries, where her husband, Robert, works as a line supervisor."

"A brief foot chase ensued, with the man threatening officers with a Mac 9 automatic or semiautomatic handgun, which is illegal to possess, Rulon said."

"The man got out of the vehicle and traded fire with three officers before he was shot and killed. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Rulon said the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department is conducting an independent investigation, which is customary in officer-involved shootings."

"The assailant has a criminal history, with "a weapons violation and a restraining order or two" on his record, Rulon said."


http://www.dailybulletin.com/Stories/0,1413,203~21481~1906097,00.html

[MrBenchley]

90. "her quick thinking and power of persuasion got her out

of a life-threatening situation..."

One wonders why every RKBA argument depends on distortion, denial or outright deception.

[beevul]

92. Hand us another laugh...

"The man got out of the vehicle and traded fire with three officers before he was shot and killed. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Rulon said the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department is conducting an independent investigation, which is customary in officer-involved shootings."

POLICE had to defend themselves.

DGU.

[DoNotRefill]

110. Ah. The knowledgable media at it again.

a "Mac 9"?

Anybody care to cite the appropriate code banning "Mac 9"s?

That's in the same category as "semiautomatic revolvers" and other media stupidity...

[beevul]

86. Subway shootout

"Subway shootout"

By PETE DONOHUE and GREG GITTRICH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Tuesday, January 20th, 2004


"An illegal Mexican immigrant wrestled a gun away from a pair of bandits on a Manhattan subway, triggering a wild shootout early yesterday that left one thug dead, police sources said."

"As the nearly empty train rumbled toward Union Square, the bandits - Silverio Rivera and Pedro Rivilla - attempted to rob Tapea and an unidentified man, sources said."

"Rather than hand over cash, Tapea allegedly snatched a .22-caliber pistol away from Rivera and squeezed off as many as five shots, sources said."

"Rivilla fired back at least twice, sending terrified riders fleeing toward the back of the car, sources said."


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/v-pfriendly/story/156592p-137542c.html

[beevul]

88. Iowa Barroom Brawl Ends in Fatal Shootings

"Iowa Barroom Brawl Ends in Fatal Shootings"


"DES MOINES, Iowa - Three men were shot — two fatally — in a barroom brawl early Saturday and two gunmen surrendered after a running gun battle with police investigating the violence."

"Shortly after police were called to the scene at the Casa Vallarta restaurant, two men in a white pickup truck opened fire on an officer who tried to pull them over, Des Moines police Sgt. Jeff Aldrich said. The officer was not hurt."

"Other officers then chased the truck until one squad car rammed into the fleeing vehicle. The officer in that squad car was treated and released for injuries suffered in the collision."


"The suspects then fired on police as they ran to a nearby apartment complex, but surrendered after officers shot and wounded them, Aldrich said. Their injuries were not life-threatening, he added."


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040125/ap_on_re_us/restaurant_shooting_1

[MrBenchley]

89. investigators didn't know what sparked the bar fight or shooting

One wonders again why every RKBA argument depends on distortion, denial or outfright deception.

[beevul]

93. Tell it to someone ...

"Shortly after police were called to the scene at the Casa Vallarta restaurant, two men in a white pickup truck opened fire on an officer who tried to pull them over, Des Moines police Sgt. Jeff Aldrich said. The officer was not hurt."

"The suspects then fired on police as they ran to a nearby apartment complex, but surrendered after officers shot and wounded them, Aldrich said. Their injuries were not life-threatening, he added."


Tell it to someone who doesn't understand police were being shot at and defended themselves with guns.

DGU

[alwynsw]

108. Hahahahahahahahaha

What a steaming pantload

[beevul]

91. Officer Placed On Administrative Duty After Shooting

"Officer Placed On Administrative Duty After Shooting"

"Guy Stinson, a seven-year veteran Houston Police Department officer, was placed on administrative duty after he shot and killed a man who allegedly robbed a Diamond Shamrock gas station on Jeanetta at Richmond early Monday morning."

"Officials said they tried to stop the suspected robber while he ran from the gas station when it appeared he reached for a weapon inside his jacket, causing officers to open fire."

"Investigators confirmed the man had a gun"

"Stinson will remain on administrative duty pending the outcome of the investigation."



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040120/lo_kprc/1965277

[beevul]

94. Grand juries find officers justified in separate shootings OR (1 Q-able)

One grand jury determined that Central Precinct Officer Brian Hubbard was justified in firing at Jose Angel Padilla of Yakima to save the life of a woman whom Padilla was threatening at Portland's main bus terminal on Jan. 3.

Hubbard, 38, fired a single shot from about 25 feet away using an AR-15 rifle, striking Padilla once. Padilla, 22, died from a single head wound, an autopsy found.

""They were asking him, 'Do you have a knife?' He had his hand underneath her throat, pulled it out, displayed the knife clearly to the officers, and put it back beneath her neck," Chief Derrick Foxworth said Tuesday. "I don't think there was any doubt in anyone's mind that the suspect was going to take that woman's life.""

"Hubbard fired one shot at 7:24 p.m., three minutes after the first 9-1-1 call came in, Sgt. Cheryl Robinson said."

Not enough info on the second one, IMO.


"http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1074085404175220.xml

[Columbia]

109. Ravens cornerback Corey Fuller's home invaded, gunfire exchanged - FL

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/040121/6/wfce.html

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Baltimore Ravens cornerback Corey Fuller exchanged gunfire with an intruder outside his home early Wednesday.

Fuller and a house guest went outside to a car when they were confronted by the gunman at about 2:30 a.m. The man chased Fuller back into the house and then fled after about 20 shots were exchanged, police said. No one was injured.

Fuller, whose younger brother, Fred Bates, was shot to death at age 18 in 1992, offered a $10,000 US reward for information leading to an arrest.

"I've already lost one son," said Fuller's mother, Alice Bates. "I don't want to lose another one."

...

[davidinalameda]

111. locking

see what happens when I don't pay attention to y'all