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kpete
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:51 AM Original message |
90 guns per 100 people |
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dmallind
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. and about 3 gun murders per 100 THOUSAND people. Looks like most guns not used to kill. NT |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What does that have to do with the number in the OP? |
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William769
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Just goes to show how numbers work depending on what side of the arguement you are on. |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I get defensive when people think our guns per capita number is just too low. |
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dmallind
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Then you erred - I just think it's an irrelevant red herring |
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OneTenthofOnePercent
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. Who said or stated "our guns per capita number is just too low" ? |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
98. Straw. Who said "our guns per capita number is just too low?" Cites? nt |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-15-11 02:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
163. It's about 10 people too low NT |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. as long as deaths don't skyrocket, I'm fine with the sale of guns.I own 4 myself :) |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Gun deaths skyrocketed in this country long ago. |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. so when is a good time period that has the right amount of guns that should be out in the world? |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
99. Corrections to your post... |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
133. gun ownership way up |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. one death is too many, but that's not important is it? |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. ANY death is a tragedy. |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. your quote is "as long as deaths don't skyrocket" |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. no. |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. As long as you can keep your precious guns people can die from them |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. that's the problem with freedoms, huh? |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Freedom to kill? You know what website you are on? |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. you are putting words in my mouth. |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Nice diversion, we're talking about guns........ |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. its an analogy... in case you didn't catch that.. |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Your original quote and insensitivity stands, we're done |
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shadowrider
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I don't want people to die from drunk drivers, purposely or accidentally |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Jump to his defence, in spite of his insensitiity, of course, you agree... |
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PavePusher
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
97. You put words in his mouth... |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. don't want anyone to die!! I want people to be free and I understand that |
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rrneck
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
94. How do you feel about |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
103. Whenever you say "we're done," it's a signal that you can't get enough! nt |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
102. Specious and illogical, sad but expected. nt |
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dmallind
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
84. And all you have to do to back that up as a case for gun control is demonstrate one thing |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Sure whatever............ |
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spin
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
113. You haven't presented any convincing arguments ... |
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spin
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
114. You mean logic, data and facts can change minds ... |
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Euromutt
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
148. Nobody actually believes that "one death is too many" |
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dmallind
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. That's the point - it doesn't,. |
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DainBramaged
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Yup, get that point in, that's an acceptable death count yep.... |
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Renew Deal
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm ready for Red Dawn. |
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WCGreen
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Wolverines... |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
104. Ve-l-Iy interesting. I thought that guy on the right was in a German tank. nt |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Boyevaya Mashina Pekhoty or BMP |
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michreject
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm doing my part |
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I hope you bring enough ammo for everyone. |
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michreject
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I try and keep up. |
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notesdev
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Clearly that's a problem |
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NewMoonTherian
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
91. It's much worse than that... |
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notesdev
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Sat Jan-15-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
164. yeah I know, but shhhh |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think I should help out and buy a new gun. Maybe XD-M in .40S&W? |
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X_Digger
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Nah, go for the 45acp. n/t |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah that is a contender |
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Cid_B
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. That's my next buy... |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Will that really make you feel better? |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
115. Any chance you could mention... |
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L0oniX
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. S&W MP9 .40 45 ...all good. |
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yellowcanine
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. Useless statistic because it doesn't account for multiple gun ownership. |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Here is households stats ... pretty constant. |
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michreject
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I take that with a grain of salt |
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yellowcanine
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And likewise there are plenty of people who would say they HAD a gun when they didn't. |
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Xithras
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Absolutely true. |
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snooper2
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Or the 10/22 ruger I've got that needs a firing pin |
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Gormy Cuss
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. The point of this useful statistic is a comparative per capita measure. |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
116. Interestingly... |
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Zephie
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. My husband used to own four guns. |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Your husband sounds cool! |
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Threedifferentones
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I hate them too. Just like I hate people, we are so violent and selfish. |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
106. Just don't "hate" the people who have them. Thanks. nt |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
134. now thats love |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
141. Swap four guns for a cat? |
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fascisthunter
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. but, but.... we are infringing on gun enthusiasts' rights... |
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FredStembottom
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
19. Of course the point of the statistic is the "most heavily armed" part. |
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progressoid
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. To keep the Rooskies out! |
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Fla_Democrat
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
21. Somebody better tighten up |
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rrneck
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
95. Best sig line I've seen in months. nt |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
22. The gun fixation is the most depressing thing about the US |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. well because of the 2nd amendment, this love affair will remain. |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That, is pathetic and sick reasoning. |
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Upton
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yeah that messy Constitution always seems to get in the way |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Can I see your "well regulated militia" membership card? |
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Recursion
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. US Code Title 10, Sub A, Part 1, Chapter 13, Sec 311 |
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provis99
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. holy smokes! Does that mean women can't own guns? |
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Recursion
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. It says women who are not in the National Guard or Naval Militia are not in the unorganized militia |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
128. No, it means women are not obligated. |
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NewMoonTherian
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Certainly not... |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #90 |
153. It means you have revokable priviledge, not an inherent right |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. A well educated electorate being necessary for free elections,... |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
80. Mine looks like this |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
112. Well? |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
117. No, but you can see this... |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
136. from the Heller decision |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. so anyone owning a gun is wrong is your eyes? |
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tridim
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No. I support the second amendment with reasonable restrictions. |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. (I don't agree with this statement but I'm making it for an argument reason.) |
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GreenStormCloud
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
81. Translation: Restricted out of existance, as in Pre-Donald Chicago. N/T |
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michreject
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
111. Would that be Donald Duck? nt |
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Straw Man
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Sat Jan-15-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #45 |
161. Reasonable restrictions? |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. 2nd amendment says well-regulated not de-regulated or un-regulated |
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svsuman23
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. who is talking WMD's? |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
123. Assault weapons such as in this instance are for |
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Fla_Democrat
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Is that the current interpretation? |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
124. Current regulations allow a flaming psycho to buy an assault weapon |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. You are mistaken |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. assault weapons |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. Oh please like a private citizen is going fight off |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. it worked ok in nam |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Oh we all need guns to be in a guerilla war with the US government? |
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one-eyed fat man
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Biological weapons didn't exist? |
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K8-EEE
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #150 |
155. So we all have a right to be armed with Smallpox virus or |
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one-eyed fat man
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Sat Jan-15-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #155 |
162. I don't know if you are or not. |
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YllwFvr
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Sat Jan-15-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #155 |
165. I know some people with cannons |
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YllwFvr
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #146 |
151. the skin heads seem to be discontent |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
101. Do you define an extended magazine as an WMD? |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #101 |
125. Yeah and aren't things just peachy over there. |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #125 |
142. When was your last tour? nt |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Oh I guess I should have no opinion on Iraq |
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one-eyed fat man
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #147 |
154. Based on your other "first hand" expertise |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
108. Definitions unclear... |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #108 |
129. OK by "well regulated" I mean to regulate in a proper manner |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. I can buy military assault rifles at walmart? |
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one-eyed fat man
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
143. You have choices |
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beevul
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #129 |
156. Do you really think they sell military assault rifles at walmart? |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
118. Allow me to assist you. |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. So what did they mean by "well regulated?" |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Taking it out of context, it could mean anything. |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Governments have NO POWER to regulate deadly weapons? |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Applied differently... |
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K8-EEE
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #132 |
152. Well then try NOT applying it differently |
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beevul
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #152 |
157. Jesus johnson. |
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FredStembottom
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. it's another type of drug problem. |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
109. I thought my old Ruger Police Service Six was cocaine in disguise... |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sat Jan-15-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
159. Yeah, let's try Prohibition again! Third time's the charm, amirite? |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. I agree -- |
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lawodevolution
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. "I think it is a sign of some seriously deep sickness as a culture and society" |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
119. Have an open mind? |
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SteveM
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
107. Why is having guns a "sickness in our culture?" |
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K8-EEE
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
126. Gun LOVE is sick. |
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beevul
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. Wow, thats a list of red herrings right there. |
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YllwFvr
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
139. "These things cause so much devastation" |
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Upton
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
26. Actually I should think everybody would want to own at least one |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. That would be resonable. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. "Stock-piling"? Also known as hunters, sport shooters, and enthusiasts have different guns... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. It's too late to do anything now. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
100. Dodge. n/t |
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
105. Intoxicating power? |
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
120. No thats not it. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. those other ten need to step up, they are slacking. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kick and Rec (nt) |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
62. WOW.....that's a lot of guns |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. This is a lot of guns |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Great pic. What are they doing there? |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. no one person had that amount. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. Explain, if you can |
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Ooh, ooh, I know, I know.. but I'll remain quiet :) |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
79. Soon we will have those other ten armed too. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. The "assault rifle" is also very popular here in El Paso |
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
121. I assume... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. Most of them are here in Chicago. ntxt |
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
87. And after Republicans destroyed the economy for 8 years, we put them back in charge. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
140. nice mag on that ak |
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
88. The United States also has the oldest written Constitution ... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
149. Yeah we are using Musket Law from the 1700's war for |
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Sat Jan-15-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #149 |
158. Then attempt to... |
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Sat Jan-15-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #149 |
160. The First Amendment was also written in the 1700's . Please log off and use quill pens from now on. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
89. 90:100 almost the golden ratio... |
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