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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 10:57 PM Original message |
The mere presence of a gun |
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elocs
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not endangerment, but intimidation. Bullies can intimidate without even touching. |
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TheWraith
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And a person who is prepared to defend themselves cannot be intimidated. |
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consigli
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Really? |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I think posting the actual statements could be calling out a DU member |
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consigli
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. thanks, but |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I never said that and I don't believe it NT |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Intimidation wasn't what was claimed |
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sam sarrha
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. but the facts are that Tea Baggers cary guns to Liberal events to INTIMIDATE THEM..period |
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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consigli
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. What events are you attending? |
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sam sarrha
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
101. i have seen many photos.. link |
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
54. So, there is no reason to conspicously exercise a right? |
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Abq_Sarah
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Mon Jan-24-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
115. Does the sight of a holstered weapon intimidate you? |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
74. You did not answer the question, you deflected. |
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76percentuncertain
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Mon Jan-24-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
113. > |
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HankyDubs
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. you fail to see |
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TheWraith
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'm sure someone intent on murder will be stopped by laws against carrying a gun. nt |
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HankyDubs
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Not right now they aren't |
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Union Scribe
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. What law would stop the scenario in the post you replied to? |
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HankyDubs
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Sun Jan-23-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. open to suggestions |
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hack89
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Sun Jan-23-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
60. They are less frequent |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Actually the original intent of gun control was to insure the poor and minorities were disarmed |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
76. "These incidents" are VERY infrequent. |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Again, you miss (or dodge) the question |
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sam sarrha
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. anybody carrying a gun to a political event is dangerious because they are F'n crazy..!! |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Does that include the Secret Service? |
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sam sarrha
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
100. I'm "Obviously" talking about the Tea Party Mafia.. and no you aren't endangering me. i always carry |
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HankyDubs
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. actually you dodged |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I assume the person is law abiding because they usually are |
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HankyDubs
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. you are not a safe full of guns and ammo...I hope |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 04:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Well I never know whether you're going to blow a gasket |
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spin
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Sun Jan-23-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
89. If people with concealed weapons permits do this on a regular basis ... |
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one-eyed fat man
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Sun Jan-23-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
61. It's old, it's trite, but it's true |
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Mon Jan-24-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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safeinOhio
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Here is one |
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Deleted message |
friendly_iconoclast
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Word salad. You seem to have misread the question. |
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Maine_Nurse
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. So since we can't assume... |
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HankyDubs
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. again with this car stuff |
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beevul
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Sun Jan-23-11 04:24 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Such as? |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Never had to pass a federal background check to buy a car. |
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oneshooter
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
68. " I need my car to get to the mall.".......... |
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PavePusher
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Mon Jan-24-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #68 |
105. "dees-il power" |
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rl6214
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Cho and Loughner weren't carrying in public |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Its one of those stickly little things. |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
75. Yes, you are. We have this little priciple of "innocent until proven guilty" here. |
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Uben
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. I guess it's intimidating if you are intimidated |
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RSillsbee
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Why would you want to carry openly? |
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Uben
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It doesn't as long as you do it responsibly |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. More of a "show-off" thing than a necessity. |
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MichaelHarris
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. you can |
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Katya Mullethov
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
64. I carry a 400 dollar gun |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. See, I always have a smoke |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
77. How much do you think an AK-47 and a scanner costs? |
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A Simple Game
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Sun Jan-23-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
91. Open Carry is not free in New York. |
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YllwFvr
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Tue Jan-25-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
117. new york isnt exactly the shining example |
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RSillsbee
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Tue Jan-25-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
121. Ya know |
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YllwFvr
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Tue Jan-25-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
116. comfort nt |
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PavePusher
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Mon Jan-24-11 07:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
106. Because Civil Rights do not generally require camoflauge. n/t |
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beevul
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Sat Jan-22-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. I can't explain the "endanger" argument... |
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petronius
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
26. The 'endanger' argument for open-carry leaves out a step - it's not the carrier |
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MichaelHarris
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
28. I don't |
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petronius
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. That's you being scared by you, not you being endangered by anyone else. (nt) |
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MichaelHarris
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. ya know |
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petronius
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Your first two sentences make no sense at all: people are endangered when |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Open carriers will be robbed of their wallets AND guns? Cite, please. |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. I didn't pull my gun it's sititng in my holster |
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PavePusher
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Mon Jan-24-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
108. So, you can cite to where this has happened, right? n/t |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 04:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. So because you don't know me |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
78. What was the motive of the guy you said had an AK-47 and a scanner? |
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shadowrider
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Dude, are you seriously expecting that question to be answered? n/t |
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cleanhippie
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Of course! |
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PavePusher
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Mon Jan-24-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
107. Stop living in fear and paranoia. |
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sharesunited
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
36. Its presence on your person where you can take it into your hand |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. You are exposed to capricious risk anytime you are near a moving automobile.... |
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one-eyed fat man
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Sun Jan-23-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. Hell, you say! |
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dmallind
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Mon Jan-24-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
110. Careful - I have seen the "equipped for rape" argument seriously proposed....nt |
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one-eyed fat man
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Mon Jan-24-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Strident militancy has its inspiration |
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
42. Didn't you know.. |
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KansasVoter
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
43. Wow, insecure? |
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Hoyt
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Sun Jan-23-11 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
44. It's no so much you/Democrats, as your typical tea-bagger gun toters. They are clearly a danger. |
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beevul
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Sun Jan-23-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. WOW. Just wow. |
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Pancho Sanza
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Thank you, it's good to know I wasn't the only one horrified by that crazy talk. |
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Hoyt
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
71. As usual you can't think past your gun. TBaggers carry to impose their political beliefs. |
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beevul
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Mon Jan-24-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
103. " TBaggers carry to impose their political beliefs." |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue Jan-25-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
123. I have never had a teabagger try to impose his political beliefs on me |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Their political beliefs are proof they are not fit to carry |
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Hoyt
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Intimidation (wearing guns in public) to impose their political beliefs is wrong. |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I agree that intimidation is wrong |
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Hoyt
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Never said a thing about deciding who votes. Anyone, no matter how deranged, can/should vote. |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Oh yeah, you did. |
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Sun Jan-23-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Deleted message |
RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. I appologize , you are correct . You did say "carry" NT |
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RSillsbee
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. To be perfectly clear |
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Hoyt
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. No apologies necessary. But thanks. |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. You CAN'T be serious. |
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
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PavePusher
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Mon Jan-24-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
109. Playing an authoritarian fuck-stick on a Progressive web-site... |
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YllwFvr
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Tue Jan-25-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
118. i would be fine restricting guns from public places |
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Major Hogwash
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
52. If you carry openly here now in the city, the police will be called. |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Yeah, damn. |
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Major Hogwash
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. This is why -- the first city police officer was killed during an ordinary traffic stop |
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. They might be *called*, sure |
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Major Hogwash
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Sun Jan-23-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. You don't live here, so you don't know squat about it. |
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oneshooter
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. The law is written for everybody to read. Even you. n/t |
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YllwFvr
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Tue Jan-25-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #90 |
119. they can be called |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue Jan-25-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
124. Bullshit. |
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Callisto32
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
53. Putting down wounded animals is hard. |
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YllwFvr
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Tue Jan-25-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
120. be aware of your laws |
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RSillsbee
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Tue Jan-25-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Luckily I live in Colorado |
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Tue Jan-25-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Not funny... But funny none the less. We had an issue at a store nearby. |
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Still a Democrat
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. Jared Loughner was a law abiding gun owner, like you |
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oneshooter
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. So can knives, cars, and baseball bats. |
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spin
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. Jared Loughner was waving RED FLAGS ... |
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shadowrider
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Sun Jan-23-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yet |
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Sun Jan-23-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. It is possible that proactive mental care might stop many of these massacres ... |
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
69. One never knows when a gun might go berserk and start randomly shooting people -- in the minds of |
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KansasVoter
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Sun Jan-23-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
93. Well, how about the story 4 days ago of an idiot dropping his CC gun and shooting someone? |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sun Jan-23-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. It wasn't the presence of the gun, it was its mishandling by the nitwit owner |
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KansasVoter
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Sun Jan-23-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I think most of them are stupid as shit. And if the gun wasn't there you ca';t drop it. |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sun Jan-23-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Would that be a sampling error on your part, or just bigotry? |
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KansasVoter
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Mon Jan-24-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Based on the sample of ccw people I know! |
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Mon Jan-24-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Did you meet them in class? n/t |
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Mon Jan-24-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Class is postponed until "Spring". |
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