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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:34 AM Original message |
Arizona State University students react to gun bill (Right to carry on-campus) |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Newsflash for Alex: You're probably ALREADY surrounded by |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. The states with similar laws on the books have had no trouble |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Sometimes people speak from an emotional standpoint. Yes! It's true! n/t |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. unlike gun owners. . . . |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nonsense for campuses to allow guns. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Unless the college or university is |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Concealed carry would be an outrage on campus. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why would it be an outrage? It's not a problem/outrage at usiversities that allow it... |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Because it's an unnecessary thing to do and goes against |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You're implying a right to safety which simply doesn't exist |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No concealed carry in IL, but I've stopped dining in Iowa |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. That is your right, you are making a personal choice and I respect that n/t |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Thank you. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. On the other hand, MY choice is to carry, concealed. Do you respect MY choice? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. At home yes. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. How in the world are you going to get the criminal element |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. A push for mandatory and festively painted penis gourds as standard attire ? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Life imprisonment for no license. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Look into gangs. Sheesh |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Yes, I'm aware of those who scream about them. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. May I see your First, Fourth and Thirteenth Amendment Licences, please? n/t |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. But there is no right to know what you're sitting next to, |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Funny how I have no rights isn't it? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Nobody said you have no rights, just that the 'right' you're claiming here is imaginary |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I'm down |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. When you go out to eat, do you demand everyone around you disclose |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Please point to this "right to know". |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. No concealed carry in IL |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. What student rights are being violated? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Why would I substitute A-A for gun carriers? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Because it shows how flawed your argument is |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I think that analogy is flawed. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Civil Rights are Civil Rights. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. No, it's pretty apt |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. The wish is to not be around |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You bring up Tucson, and the one person with a gun on him |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. If my colleages will observe , this aversion negates one's ability to interpret the printed word |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Can I use my not yet invented digital camera with a light setting requiring no flash? n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. Exactly. He made the right decision. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I see your position... |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. We all know there is no guaranteed peaceful and safe environment. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Your irrational fear amuses me |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. That's not very civil to the conversation is it? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. Supporting evidence, please. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
75. I also thought of a similar analogy, but I don't think the comparison between people and firearms is |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sorry, where is that right codified, exactly? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Ninth Amendment |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. An uncodified right should preclude an enumerated right (right to adequente means of self defense)? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Rights are rights. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
76. You'll have to forgive me for being rather skeptical about that answer |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Students don't have the "right" to deny others their civil rights. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. The same as gun carriers don't have the right to deny others of |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Not wanting to be near gun carriers is not a civil right |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I disagree with that. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Define "tightening up" the laws. Which laws would you tighten, in YOUR opinion? n/t |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. The ones for mental issues and any abuse. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. There are already laws on the books for mental issues and abusers |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Mental illness and a criminal background are already disqualifiers |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
72. Can we apply that to all other Rights as well? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. Uh, sorry, a student does not have the right to deny... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. In states with shall issue |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
77. Washington state falls under the description in jaxx's post |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. OK I get the whole point of having guns in your home |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Is your neighbors revolver a Judge? n/t |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It sure is - Taurus Judge |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Just askin cause that's my home defense weapon n/t |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Fascinating hellboy pistol |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It's loaded with .410 n/t |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. In that case , math whizzes innerweb wide recommend |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That was the thought at VT too n/t |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Yeah, because... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. Its not that we can't go into the classroon without being armed.... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. Crimes happen on campus. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. Funny that we think we can trust people with the intellectual future of young people... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. Frankly, I think this bill is bullshit |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
28. So far the conversation has been civil and it's appreciated |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
74. Oops, I may fit that catagory. Sorry... n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. Blatent ignorance and bigotry openly carried on ASU campus. |
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