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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:14 AM Original message |
Michigan bills would allow concealed guns in more places |
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DrDan
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. schools, daycare centers, bars . . . what could go wrong |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. So often they become UNconcealed....... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. do you have any proof? |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. You'd like "proof" would you? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
34. that doesn't answer my question.. |
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PavePusher
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
105. Again you ignore evidence that guns are frequently used in defense. |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
116. Nothing is stopping *privately* funded research. So why has it not happened yet? |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. What about the U.S. crime-rate do you not understand? Do you think these guns are for ballast? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Us violent crime rate is at 30+ year low, it is now lower than the gun-free utopia UK. n/t |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Could be lots of reasons |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Since you like stats so much, TRY THESE. We lead in GUN MURDERS, if not over-all "crime." |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Why is gun murders a useful stat? Honestly would you feel better if you died from a knife? |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The topic is concealed guns. Not concealed knives. Not concealed rocks. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Once again why is gun murder a useful stat? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
126. How about.... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
78. And the "gun murder" rate has been falling for 2 decades (nt) |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
77. You mean the crime-rate that is at an historic low? |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. The crime rate may be higher than otherwise due to guns |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Roe v. Wade has much more to do with it than gun policy in either direction |
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cleanhippie
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
143. Just how "often" is that? |
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KansasVoter
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. The gun fans are a paranoid scared bunch. They think they will have a gun battle daily. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Quite so |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Of course that is your strawman. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. These analogies fail |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. They can be misused. Of course they can. |
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pipoman
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Your statement is false |
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DonP
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Wed Jan-26-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
128. That's a mean looking bunch of killers, nice uniforms though!. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. That's it. Look at me wrong at Wal-mart and I'll blast ya into the linen section n/t |
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
135. You say that as if its true... |
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RegieRocker
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. They talk about guns which they know nothing about. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
66. I heard a gun guy say |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Average Police response time is >10 minutes and Police have no duty to protect. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Moved by author |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. The slogan doesn't make much sense you are right on that. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #84 |
91. The Times article doesn't back up your claim |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Read Warren v. DC |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Warren vs DC is a DC court ruling, not SC |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Just google "no duty to protect" |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #97 |
117. Then show us an SC ruling that *does* declare a "duty to protect". |
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X_Digger
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. Since at least 1969.. No Duty to Protect.. |
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X_Digger
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Fri Jan-28-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #97 |
150. *bump* .. care to respond? n/t |
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pipoman
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
133. You're kidding right? |
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Ochsfan
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. It's all fantasy |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. There are gender factors that support your view |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Wed Jan-26-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
140. So, how do you explain women gun owners? |
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KansasVoter
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. So true, a lot of them HOPE they have a chance to use all the money they spend. |
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PavePusher
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
106. Evidence, as asked for: |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Why is the article attacking/insulting cops? |
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dmallind
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. This consistent projection/transference of you fears onto CCW folks is a bit repetitive. NT |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I live a fear-free, gun-free life, like most people |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Of course they "can" they chose not to. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yes, people can "choose to do a lot of things" |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You claim it is irrational but haven't proven it. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. hah! |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I don't really give a shit if violent criminals are "harmed" during the commission of a crime. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Really? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. No problem. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Any you are qualified to judge threat level? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Yeah. |
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michreject
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Absolutely |
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beevul
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Wed Jan-26-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
137. More qualified than YOU are to judge "fear level". N/T |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
59. In point of fact, it is EXACTLY your "job" to so determine, lest YOU be arrested. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Did you read/understand what you linked to? |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Yes; it shows that only 3/5 of the states have any "Castle Laws." It shows that, for many, a |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. That is the one thing I agree with. |
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PavePusher
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
108. How many of these folks were "irrational"? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
121. I've been in at least one situation (outside of the military) |
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The Straight Story
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. " so they can threaten or harm people wherever they go." talk about fear.... |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Cars have a purpose beyond harming other people |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Firearms are designed to project force. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Tell it to these people |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
62. To be clear |
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pipoman
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Yet you want to |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. That's why I clarified my view |
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pipoman
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. That's easy to say |
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
119. Clear, but wrong. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
139. So, will that stop a criminal from harming me or taking my property? n/t |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
148. Yup. |
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rrneck
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
107. So what solution do you offer |
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beevul
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
136. So what? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Of course you live in Canada where the Government has given you no choice in this matter. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. We don't seem to be as gripped by fear as you are |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
112. Since you are obviously not here to provide security for anyone... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
144. Unlike yourself we citizens of the USA do have a choice.... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
147. You do realize that hundreds of thousands of Americans a year... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. You raise good questions. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Sometimes it helps just to pose the right questions |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. Federal law prohibits guns at k-12 schools. |
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DainBramaged
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
21. YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeee HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You owe me a keyboard........ |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I'm hungry for some bacon. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. As a Canadian, how is the MI CPL law affecting you? |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Thanks for asking |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. If a CPL holder shoots someone |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
69. You've got to be kidding. What on earth would lead you to make |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. My life is in danger |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. So because you have irrational fears you want to convince other people |
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michreject
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Addressing this to me? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No. Not you. The person who feels the need to deprive other people of their rights. n/t |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. There is no "right" of carrying a concealed gun. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Self Defense is a human right. The state has no duty to protect you. |
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WinkyDink
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You're having a tough time staying on topic, aren't you? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. No. Self defense is a human right. Firearms are an effective means of self defense. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Examples of when concealed-gun carriers fended off a criminal? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Here |
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PavePusher
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
113. As asked for: |
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X_Digger
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
123. Here are three.. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
122. Remember.. |
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beevul
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Wed Jan-26-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
138. It could be argued that there isn't now. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Most criminals use guns on other criminals |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well you are right most criminals don't use guns. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
51. I could get behind 'open carry' rather than simply concealed as well. nt |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
74. Good luck trying to convince the largest militia group in the |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
80. On the "police have no duty to protect" nonsense |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. US legal precedent disagrees with Bragi's unfounded claims |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. It isn't nonsense. The Police (and govt in general) has absolutely no duty to protect individuals. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
130. STOP IT! YOU'RE SCARING THEM! |
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Wed Jan-26-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #130 |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #130 |
149. It would seem the gun control reality patrol is out in force to night NT |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Maybe we should have a look at police response times, eh? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
114. How do you propose to ensure... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
125. Where is your cite to a case enforcing a duty to protect? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
132. Another addition.. |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
82. Worn-out amateur mind-reading act is long on drama, short on facts |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. The data to associate crime rates and guns isn't available |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Paranoid misdirection. The state of Texas keeps detailed statistics you might find interesting. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
118. So does Florida. So your claim of being unable to find data is specious: |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
109. Then go find out and get back to us |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
115. Nothing is stopping *privately* funded research. So why has it not happened yet? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
89. OP, I carry every time I leave the house, and I have for over 15 years. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. If you aren't afraid of others, why carry a gun? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. If you aren't afraid of others why do you care if he carries? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I'm not particularly afraid of fire, but I keep fire extinguishers in my kitchen and garage |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Failed analogy |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. You haven't dealt with it at all. Your bias is preventing you from seeing a gun as a defensive tool. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. How would you have people |
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DainBramaged
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
127. they can't, like any addiction, acknowledging a problem is the first step |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
141. Since you insist on repeating this Big Lie, I ask: Cite to evidence, please. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
92. I'm more frightened of violent criminals in public places than I am of legal gun carriers |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
99. Well, that's great. |
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Bragi
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
101. Off to the pro-gun DU ghetto we are! |
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Drizzle, drazzle, drozzle, drome... |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Yep, the home of actual |
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
104. I guess all these people should have offered tea and crumpets to their attackers? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
124. I told you this was going to happen |
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
134. Why why why. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
142. There you go again, with your false assumptions and ignorance on the subject. |
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
145. Why do you fear the lawful carrying of firearms? |
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
146. So you walk around dark parking lots and bad neighborhoods without fear? |
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