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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:04 AM Original message |
Understanding Laymen's Firearms Terminology |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. I still would like to know why someone needs a 30 round magazine |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Need is not really the issue when it comes to RKBA. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I would like to know why |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Show me how I can pull my 6,500 lb. travel trailer with a bike and I'll |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I guess I should have put a little sarcam thingy on the end of my post |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Oops. My bad n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Your statement demontrates the issue exactly. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I've owned guns all my life |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. So have I. What's your point? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Then why the silly question? n/t |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
77. I'm not a racist, I have black friends. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. The U.S does not have a Dep. of Needs, and you are not the Needs Czar. N/T |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Very nice. Way to send someone off as an enemy. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Most states limit the amount of rounds you can have in a magzine while hunting deer ... |
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May Hamm (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
85. Most states? Really? |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. 3 in Illinois N/T |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Actually to hunt anything, not just bambi |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. I would not use a 30 round mag to hunt... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
74. The guns used to hunt Bambi trade away capacity for very high power, 4-6 kJ/round |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
78. They are sure as heck helpful for prarie dog hunts, |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Hmmm... Good point! |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Feral hog |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. Jeez - Definition of a clip |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. As I said, if you focus on the nomenclature instead of the issue, |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. And I say, you can't focus on the issue if you don't know the nomenclature n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. You're wrong. You can focus on the issue, as long as you understand |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. And we do that on this issue as well. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. My point, exactly. If you waste time trying to explain firearms |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. ive seen a poster right here in DU |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yes, it's rare. It's good when that happens. I've seen far more |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I prefer the term "correcting" |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I can't very well have a reasonable discussion about "shoulder-things that go up"... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You're stretching the discussion to the breaking point. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. If you've never seen anyone using that terminology |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. I don't think I'm stretching at all. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. You forgot "plastic undetectable handguns" N/T |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Aargh! I was thinking it and forgot to send the thought to my fingers...!! n/t |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Your fingers simply... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Tag, I'm it... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Actually, you can. How you do that is to tell the person |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. You have a valid point.... |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
72. I disagree... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Heaven forfend we actually educate someone. |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
8. Thanks for that. You're one of my favorite people here. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. "...and quite often by those who aren't experts on the subject." |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. So get involved on the other side of the issue. If you are a member |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. The only legislation I think we need... |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. So you're content to be passive while people who don't share your |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I never said I was passive. |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Good for you! Other than what I said about the NRA above, |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Thanks. That's kind of you to say. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. And here is the problem |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
15. Also, a bullet is NOT a complete cartridge or round of ammunition |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yes, I know that. My definitions are what people who don't know |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Then you should take the opportunity to educate rather than reinforce |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. That's what I'm trying to do - educate. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Huh? Where on this thread did I make a sarcastic comment regarding ignorance? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm not talking about this thread or about you. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. ok n/t |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. If you do not understand an issue, you are unqualified to propose legislation about it. |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. You are doing an excellent job of making mineralman's point. Thanks! nt |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
36. You make a point, but I think it's misguided. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. You can't argue the issues with inaccurate definitions |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. OK, but you won't be able to discuss the issues with people |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Educate them, supposedly |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Actually both sides often shun rationality in these discussion. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. In all honesty |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
84. Personally |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
81. re:You can't argue the issues with inaccurate definitions |
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Straw Man (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. Some of the terminology is VERY significant. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Where it is actually significant, then it should be explained. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. I have to take issue with a few details there |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
46. WOW!! |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Self delete, wrong place |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Read the whole post, please. Those are how the average |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Well part of the problem is |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. In all honesty, I misread the OP |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. No problem. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. Excellent post. Sadly those who don't know such things but are easily misled by |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Sometimes, it's all in how you do it. Personally, I think many |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Hope you are correct. Go for it! n/t |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
64. Its been said many a time... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
75. "Gats" use "clips". Pistols use magazines. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
76. We know what you mean. |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
82. You forgot some |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Armor-piercing hollow points -- WTF?....... |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. A few more |
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