Indiana Deer Farm Raided

[MrBenchley]

"Federal and state wildlife officials raided Indiana's largest private hunting preserve and confiscated its business records, authorities and the owner confirmed Wednesday.
DNR officials have said it's unlawful to sell specific animals to be hunted. Deer preserve operators have maintained they can charge "trespassing" or guiding fees to make such hunts legal.
Bellar said Wednesday he charges "bed and breakfast" fees to hunters.
His business is by far the largest deer-farming operation in Indiana, boasting on its Web site of having more than one deer per acre on the 1,100-acre fenced spread. Bellar's state application to keep captive deer last year reported he owned 1,267 deer, with some valued at up to $20,000.
The company invites hunters to enjoy a four-star lodge while using heated deer stands, telling prospective clients they can "see more bucks in one day than most people see in a lifetime.""

http://www.indystar.com/articles/9/117921-4649-009.html

Remember, the rationale for this idiotic sport is supposedly to reduce overpopulation of non-domesticated deer not to slaughter tamed ones.

[Superfly]

1. This coming from the crowd that advocates

"hunting" down wild deer and chopping off their nuts in an effort to control deer populations. Hahahahahahahahaha

BTW, how's that program going?

[DenverDem]

2. Bloodsports are sociopathological

whether you are "thinning the herd" or slaughtering Iraqis.

[MrBenchley]

4. Hunting is a dying sport

and good riddance, too....

You might note the thread about the two swell guys hunting....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=38341

[Superfly]

5. Hunting will far outlive both of us...

so, what can you do? :shrug:

Oh, and you should be the biggest advocate of hunting. You can't drive down the NJ Turnpike or the Garden State Parkway without committing deer genocide.

[DenverDem]

8. Just "collateral damage"

right?

Getting a thrill out of killing something is not an admirable trait.

[Superfly]

9. I take it you are a vegan, then...

:shrug:

[DenverDem]

14. Actually, yes.

I wear vinyl shoes and belts and only slaughter soy beans.

[demsrule4life]

16. Do you bother the bugs and mice in your home?

[DenverDem]

20. I let my cats handle that,

its their karma.

[MrBenchley]

17. Even if you weren't

I doubt people working at slaughterhouses try to pretend they're mighty sportsmen.....or pretend they need to kill to prevent overpopulation of wild pigs, lambs and cows....

[Superfly]

19. Apple? Meet Mr. Orange...

How else can the anti RKBA crowd falsely equivocate today?

[MrBenchley]

22. Nothing false about the analogy

[Superfly]

18. OK, if that works for you...

Good for you, I say...

But until I become a vegan, which is never, I will continue to take pleasure in killing things to put food on my table.

[slackmaster]

31. I feel sorry for you, dude

Vinyl is mighty uncomfortable compared to leather.

[DenverDem]

32. Not really,

you can't tell the difference.

[MrBenchley]

10. Yeah, but killing something under false pretenses

seems to be one hell of a thrill.....

[slackmaster]

29. What "false pretenses"?

Mr. Deer, meet Mr. Bullet.

BLAM!

Nothing false about that.

[RoeBear]

3. Everybody who gives a shit...

...raise your hand.

Why do you think anyone cares about this Benchley?

[CO Liberal]

When Something Doesn't Advance Your Agenda....

...attack the poster. Right. RoeBear?????

:-)

[Superfly]

7. I don't see an attack there...

I only see RoeBear asking if anybody gave a shit about this claptrap.

The answer looks like a resounding "NO"

[MrBenchley]

11. Sorry, I was too busy

talking to a tenant who doesn't lie to his landlord. Did somebody say something?

[Superfly]

13. Man, that's great! Ever consider a career in standup?

...

[Man_in_the_Moon]

6. Im all for getting rid of hunting

But first bring back the wolves, the puma, the bear, to levels that will control the populations of prey animals.

In a few years I can see hunting being a non-existant sport, and the government having to hire people to massacre whole populations of sickly malnurished animals.

[DenverDem]

12. In a few years, after the Energy Crash,

the pitifully poorly evolved human species will be decimated and the animal kingdom will return to natural balance, because there won't be 6 billion people on the planet screwing up the environment with their hubristic excesses.

[Superfly]

15. So says DenverDem...soothsayer and prognosticator

Say, you have the line on tomorrow's lottery?

(just a friendly jab...)

[Name removed]

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[DenverDem]

23. Way to get me in trouble, dude.

I thought my retort was humorous, but our moderator has a low threshold for banter and repartee highjinks. I'm sure they have to be that way.

(should have added your Just a friendly jab, disclaimer, it seems to work for you.)

[Moderator]

26. You, sir, are correct

and as a rule its generally better not to comment on the activities and general worldview of the moderator(s).

We'll cut you some slack this time.

The omniscient one,

DU Moderator

[beevul]

33. Can I ask?

Which humans will survive decimation?

The ones that are armed and can hunt for food?

The ones that are disarmed and eat greens?

None?

Just curious about your take on it.

[slackmaster]

24. Comment misstates the purpose of captive "hunting"

It has nothing to do with controlling the overpopulation of wild deer that exists in some areas.

[DenverDem]

25. And the purpose of captive "hunting" is?

Just wondering.

[slackmaster]

27. I think it's to provide an opportunity for people who can't hunt normally

Because of physical or time limitations, laziness, tender-footedness, or whatever else would prevent them from standard hunting. I know some people who are confined to wheelchairs avail themselves of captive "hunts", as do elderly people.

My point is that the statement that wildlife population control is used as a justification for captuve "hunting" is a Straw Man. Captive animal populations are completely separate from wild ones.

[Spentastic]

34. Just to clarify

It's so people can enjoy killing things with a minimum of effort.

[Superfly]

35. I enjoy the hell out of hunting...

as I am sure most hunters do. I do not think we'd engage in this activity if it wasn't fun, dontcha think? :shrug:

Ah...but you were trying to be acerbic with that comment, is that right?

[CO Liberal]

28. The Purpose of Captive "Hunting" ...

... is shelling out big bucks to guarantee you'll bag something that you can hang up over your fireplace.

[slackmaster]

30. That would fall under the category of "laziness"

As I explained in my reply to the same post.