Arizona Gun Wild: New Bill Establishes State Army for Gov. Brewer?

[jpak]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-biggers/arizona-gun-wild-new-bill_b_830800.html

It's one thing to dedicate legislative time over selecting an official state firearm -- only two months since the horrific Tucson shooting.

It's another matter to blacklist and ban (and allegedly rough up) Latino activists from participating in Capitol hearings on immigration bills.

But on the heels of introducing a bill that grants a state committee the right to nullify "existing federal statutes, mandates and executive orders" -- what Arizona Republic columnist E.J. Montini refers to as the right "to secede without officially doing so" -- the Arizona state legislature is now considering SB 1495, which would give Gov. Jan Brewer the right to establish "an armed force for the safety and protection of the lives and property of the citizens of the state which shall be known as the Arizona state guard."

Here's the coda: If a "major portion" of the National Guard is away on service, this bill gives Gov. Brewer the right to call up this new state army "for any other reason the governor considers to be necessary."

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GOP Brown Shirts

yup

[RSillsbee]

1. You got your well regulated militia

quit yer bitchin'

[jpak]

2. Right Wing Secessionist GOP Goon Squad

yup

[RSillsbee]

3. Given, you hate Arizona why would it bother you if they left? NT

[jpak]

4. Yes - and they are the ones that hate America

yup

[RSillsbee]

7. The tide has turned Jpak

Like it or not Gun control is a dead letter in America today. Only the extremist authoritarians (Left or Right) want it and their motives have nothing to do w/ public safety.

Maine is going to go permitless and so is Colorado and a whole bunch of other states you can whine and bitch and Yup Yup all you want but it's going to happen.

Yup

Yup

Yup

[jpak]

8. Yeah, the GOP/NRA wants more guns on the streets and their own private armies - they suck

but here in Maine we have the People's Veto to put an end to GOP/NRA overreaching gun insanity

yup

[RSillsbee]

9. The tide had turned you can swim w/ it or against it NT

[jpak]

13. Sorry, I won't go with the republican bullshit flow

nope

[PavePusher]

10. No-one pushing a "private army", not that one would automatically be a bad thing.

They're looking at forming a state militia, that org you keep saying all us gun owners should belong to.

Make. Up. Your. Fucking. Mind.

[jpak]

12. Arizona republicans are pushing this fucking GOP warlord bullshit

yup

[PavePusher]

27. Panic and hyperbole? Check.

Hypocracy will always out itself.

[Hangingon]

17. We have had the Texas State Guard for 72 years.

Under Democrat and Republican governors. Never heard of it being mis-used. The State Guard supplements the National Guard in state emergencies like hurricanes and serve the citizens of Texas. I believe they are providing traffic control for the Fulton OysterFest this weekend.

[Katya Mullethov]

24. I sent some emergency rations

of guitar and fiddle strings in that direction just this morning , with a white headed piano player . I had no idea we had a Texas State Guard..... " Equal To The Task " cool .

[friendly_iconoclast]

18. They didn't think through their arguments for a "well regulated militia".

And now that it looks like one might actually appear- all of a sudden they oppose the idea.


Caught on their own hypocrisy- I love it!

[jpak]

20. This has nothing to do with a well regulated militia - it is establishment of a GOP political army

to intimidate and kill political opponents - Dems, liberals, union activists etc.

yup

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. Like the other 22 state guards already in existence? Cite to evidence, please.

[jpak]

25. Those state guards were established when the US had a very small military in the early 1900's

The NRA/GOP is pushing this *today* to go after their political opponents.

yup

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. So, *nothing* besides yours and Biggers' assertion.

Any claim made without evidence can be dismissed in like manner.

[one-eyed fat man]

32. If you really believed that

"...to intimidate and kill political opponents - Dems, liberals, union activists etc."

Why would you be wanting so fervently to disarm Democrats? You are here screaming daily, telling Democrats they have no right to guns, why is that? Why do you constantly insist Democrats disarm if you truly believe Republicans are arming themselves for the reasons you claim?

[CreekDog]

19. yes because the citizens they are attempting to deny full constitutional rights to will suffer

if they no longer have the protections of the US Constitution.

letting the state go is throwing the whole state to the wolves.

[one-eyed fat man]

22. Just in case you haven't noticed

illegal immigrants are not citizens. If Arizona wants to secure its border with Mexico what is wrong with that?

[CreekDog]

23. who says i was referring to illegal immigrants?

:wtf:

but nice try.

[PavePusher]

28. O.K., I'll bite...

What and who were you refering to?

[friendly_iconoclast]

29. And what evidence do you have? n/t

[PavePusher]

30. Now, now... too early, you'll scare 'em off... n/t

[CreekDog]

31. US laws, the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights would no longer apply in Arizona

people in Arizona now enjoying those rights will not have all of them any longer.

the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would no longer apply.

the Americans With Disabilities Act would no longer apply.

rights guaranteed by the 13th and 14th Amendments would no longer apply.

Arizonans (Americans) should not lose all those rights.

[friendly_iconoclast]

33. And you know this because....? You are more than a little vague about this.

[CreekDog]

34. because if Arizona is no longer part of the United States, the US Constitution will no longer apply

is this that complicated for you?

maybe you should entertain yourself by watching some judge shows.

[friendly_iconoclast]

35. So show some evidence. Cites, links, that sort of thing. Without them, it's so much CT.

[CreekDog]

36. I have a question for you: Will the US Constitution apply in Arizona, if Arizona isn't in the USA?

that's your answer.

don't be a knucklehead.

[shadowrider]

5. Damned if you do, damned if you don't n/t

[Kolesar]

6. A loyal goon squad to use against the school teachers?

Wisconsin's Walker would be jealous.

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[Kolesar]

14. Lame...eom

[ChazInAz]

15. Oh, great.

That's just lovely. Janet wants her own Brownshirts to rough up uppity Labor, Latinos and Liberals. I can just imagine the level of troglodyte that will rush to sign up: the ones who couldn't make it into that effete, weekend warrior Arizona National Guard.
I wonder if Jan remembers what happened when Mecham and Symington both over-reached?

[NHRAhotrodder]

16. I read the article

where in the article did you get that?
Not defending Brewer, but I don't see any of your accusations.