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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:54 PM
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2nd Amendment(and Open Carry) Supporters Rally in Magic City Alabama
The 2nd Amendment protects the rights of citizens to bear arms. One Alabama organization is trying to make sure they get the full extent of those rights.

Alabama Open Carry (ALOC) is a grassroots organization dedicated to protecting and fighting for the rights of those who choose to wear their firearms in public.

"A lot of people, as soon as they see a firearm in the open they either, one, assume your a law enforcement officer, or that it's illegal, that you can't do that," says Jason Jones, president of ALOC. He points to legal precedence in support of the right for citizens to open carry. "Since the 1800's there have been multiple cases to prove that alabama open carry, or, carrying a firearm openly on your hip is totally legal in Alabama."

Many people do not know the laws regarding open carry. ALOC fights for it's members that continue to run into legal problems over their choice. "We can give them information about how to handle it. We can give them information from others who have gone through the same situations," says Tony Shifflet, a member of ALOC.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/2nd-Amendment-Supporters-Rally-in-Magic-City/ZZbkB9o4Ekm-r_h3h-heEQ.cspx
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:34 PM
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1. Do you believe in magic....
Sorry, it just came to mind when I read the title of the OP
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:11 PM
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3. Blood in the street in the town of magic city
Blood stains the roof and the palm trees of venice

That's what goes through my mind
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:37 PM
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7. Granted they're not as safe as places with strict gun control laws
like DC or Detroit.

But they seem to do ok.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:57 PM
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2. "well regulated"...those inconvenient words nt
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:13 PM
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5. "Individual right, unconnected w/ service in a militia." Those inconvenient words NT
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:37 PM
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8. Still beating that dead horse? N/T
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:40 PM
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12. "shall not be infringed"...those inconvenient words. nt
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:49 PM
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16. Can you carry a gun in a airline cabin? A court room? Congressional chambers? Nope
nope

The Holy 2A is not absolute

It has obvious limits

yup
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:13 PM
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25. Most airlines are private entities
As such they have every right to bar firearms. There are certain place that do allow firearms in the court house
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 04:28 PM
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43. But not in the Supreme Court or other court rooms or other public govenment buildings
yup
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:57 PM
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46. What did ignored have to say?
Jpaks posts have become so absurd that I had to ignore him/her about two weeks ago. What was the response?
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:35 PM
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48.  His/Hers/Its usual rantings. n/t
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:13 PM
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4. Do they encourage open carry - everywhere - by young African-American men?
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 07:39 PM by jpak
or do they only encourage only angry white male republicans?

:shrug:
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:32 PM
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6. For all citizens
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:40 PM
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10. How many Hispanics and African-Americans belong to this merry band?
:shrug:
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:53 PM
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17. How many are citizens?
I don't know exactly. I would expect it reflects census percentages.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:55 PM
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18. Some.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:15 PM
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26. Ironicallly the guy that took that picture (Oleg Volk)
is banned here. Yet his art just keeps popping up
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 04:31 PM
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45. good - and his art sucks
yup
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 04:30 PM
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44. So, she is a member of that stupid open carry group in Alabama - or just a paid model
:shrug:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:18 AM
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37. All who want to be. There are no restrictions on who can support civil rights
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:39 PM
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9. Ironically enough stronger restrictions/fees on guns tend to favor
the wealthy (and criminals of course) meaning that in general the more restrictions you place on guns the more you are restricting their use among black and hispanic citizens (who are disproportionately unable to pay such fees, set aside the time for classes, or use lawyers to get around legal restrictions).

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:41 PM
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13. Ironically, there are a lot of very affordable guns available to all
yup
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:44 PM
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14. And if you can afford the gun, but not the fees that go along with it
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 07:45 PM by WatsonT
should the most restrictive laws you seem to prefer become a reality?

Yeah, then you can't own a gun legally.

But don't worry, at least the people who don't care about the law will be armed.

I'm not saying you're necessarily racist. However your stance does disproportionately harm blacks and hispanics. I'm sure your goal is to harm everyone, but try to keep this fact in mind.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:47 PM
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15. Your "fact" = a steaming heap - but I'm not saying you're necessarily racist either
yup
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:56 PM
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19. Good, I'm not
now if you can cite where I supported laws that mostly harm minorities . . . .?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:19 PM
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20. odd ... it sure sounds that way ...
your whole tone and attitude in this forum smacks of it. yup.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:31 PM
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22. Your kind of anti gun regimen does disproportionately impact the poor and minorities
It really does not seem to bother you either.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:03 PM
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24. The poor need jobs - not more fucking guns
yup
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:41 PM
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30. idea
jobs making guns. yup

gunsmithing would be an excellent career. yup
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:17 AM
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36. Historically, most firearms manufacturers are also unionized
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:11 PM
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38. You can't eat guns. Guns don't pay the rent. *Fail* Make solar panels - not guns
yup
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:35 PM
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40. you can't eat solar panels either *FAIL - EPIC* but, HEY guess what
I sure can eat the dear, rabbit, squirrel killed with my gun. :9
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 04:26 PM
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42. You really must stop trying to eat solar panels.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:36 AM
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34. Irrelevant strawman and you continue to duck the facts
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:13 PM
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39. The facts are the poor can't afford rent, food, etc - and they don't need guns to keep them warm
yup
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:37 PM
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41. but they can sure enough bring home the food with a gun. yup
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:58 PM
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47. The working poor are often the victims of violent crime
Your approach would leave them prey.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:40 PM
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11. When all else fails, play the race card.
You fail. McDonald, of McDonald V Chicago is a black man.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:26 PM
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21. Otis is also a lifelong Chicago Dem
He will be our guest of honor at the I-GOLD meeting in Sprtingfield Thursday. How can that be?

Is he not a real Dem? Maybe he's not really African-American?

Something must be wrong because he thanked the ISRA and the NRA too.

(also a man of excellent taste in sports as a White Sox fan.)
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:33 PM
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23. The pro gun rights crowd is color blind, gender neutral, and sexual orientation blind
For examples, check out http://www.PinkPistols.org.

Armed and prepared people rarely get bashed.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:51 PM
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27. I guess that explains prevalence of confederate flags and NRA stickers where I live.

Most pro-gunners are right wingers -- Probably folks doing a lot of the "bashing" and other crud.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:12 PM
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28. Projection is an issue that usually calls for therapy
Since you seem to live in a shitty neighborhood full of assholes, you seem to think everyone else shares the experience. You really should talk to someone about that or find a better place to live.

I'm assuming, as usual, that you pulled the "Most pro-gunners are right wingers" right out of your ass. Or are you going to surprise us all and offer some vague form of support for your assertions this time? Or is this another one of your "take my word for it I know" moments?

I go to gun shows all the time and never see any confedrerate flags, but I do see a lot of brown and black faces walking the aisles and at the local ranges. We're having a big pro gun rally in Democrat controlled Illinois Thursday. There won't be a single confederate flag and Otis McDonald is the Grand Marshall.

Maybe you just need a betyter quality of friends and a better neighborhood.

So why don't you and you little friend shove that phony racist crap where the sun don't shine. It's not 1955 anymore.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:59 PM
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31. Yea, or I could be like you guys and pack and use that as the excuse to tote.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 11:02 PM by Hoyt
I once suggested moving to one of the pro-gunsinpublic militia. They gave me some Rush L junk about one shouldn't have to move . . . . . . .

And, yes, most pro-gunners are right wingers. Look it up if you want stats. And, if you want to get into it where there might not be a lot of statistical evidence, I'd say most of the photos (like on one of the other top threads) appeal to right wingers more than the left. And, I don't think that is good for society in the long run.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:34 AM
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33. "Pro guns in public places" - you mean like 48 states?
49 by the end of the year counting Wisconsin that's adding CCW.

You made the claim that most pro gun people are right wingers - you provide the back up for your phony claim. No wonder readers never take anything you write seriously.

Now go upstairs and take the garbage out like your mother has been asking you to do for the last two hours that you've been wasting down here trying to argue with the grown ups.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:21 PM
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29. Again, you are dead wrong. You should just stop while you're behind.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 10:21 PM by cleanhippie
Most pro-gunners are right wingers

Care to cite or source that? No? It's easier to just make shit up, huh?

Explains why your HuffPo piece failed so bad....

:rofl:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:16 AM
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35. It must be hard for you to drive given the narrowness of your vision and world view
There are a great deal more pro gun people that those with the stars and bars on their cars. For example: http://www.pinkpistols.org
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:31 AM
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32. K and R. Still not sure if I support unlicensed unrestricted open carry though. n/t
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