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bluestateguy
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:39 PM Original message |
A Liberal Case Against Gun Control |
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metisnation
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. agreed |
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Toots
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do we need police at all ... with guns. |
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el_gato
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
112. the origins of policing |
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coloradodem2005
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. agreed. |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. So then |
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wuushew
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. American mentality disappoints me time and time again |
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sendero
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Guns.... |
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slackmaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. It comes down to two issues for me |
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PROGRESSIVE1
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. After seeing how the Right Wing acts... |
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metisnation
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Live free or Die! |
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Columbia
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Agreed |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I am far far left. I also agree we only need background checks. |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I'd argue that |
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wuushew
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Many criminals are idiots |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So maybe you'd catch a few |
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wuushew
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. They have no interest in winning the unwinnable drug war |
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Columbia
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So why start another unwinnable war? |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. If the war is unwinnable |
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Columbia
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You think so? |
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mike1963
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree, even if you did swipe a quote from Dennis Miller. |
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CShine
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. I support very strict gun control. I oppose banning guns. |
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Columbia
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Real World Criminals |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Really? |
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lcordero
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. I remember the late 1980s and the early 1990s in NYC very |
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Kathy in Cambridge
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. 1990 was at the height of the crack epidemic, and a recession to boot |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. Exactly. |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. And it doesn't stop criminals |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. So, we dump the laws |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Call me crazy |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No, |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Going in circles. |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Right. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Funny. |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fine. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Not big on waiting periods. |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Right. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Last word. |
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FeebMaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:02 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm happy to answer. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Fair enough. |
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WhoCountsTheVotes
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. agree 100% |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm for responsible gun ownership and for reasonable controls... |
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Columbia
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. What do you consider reasonable? |
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Djinn
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. and back in the real world |
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KG
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. A Liberal Case for gun violence |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. No one has |
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Liberal Classic
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:53 PM Original message |
*stands ready* |
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FeebMaster
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
31. heh probably |
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DU GrovelBot
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
30. ## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
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Vickers
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. GROVELBOT looks armed |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. The Founding Fathers liked Slavery too |
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Vickers
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Wed Feb-11-04 06:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Yes, I'm sorry I called them all-knowing oracles |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
98. I'm sorry for attacking your impeccable reasoning |
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Vickers
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. Sorry dude, I trust their judgement more than yours |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Of course |
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K-W
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. Thats about the worst argument against gun control Ive ever seen. |
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el_gato
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
85. insane to support gun control while the government is turning fascist |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
34. The amendments |
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guitar man
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. I support gun control |
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OhioStateProgressive
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Wed Feb-11-04 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
53. I disagree |
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Fla_Democrat
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Wed Feb-11-04 07:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yes, cause everyone knows |
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OhioStateProgressive
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. hmmm |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Not necessarily cause and effect |
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OhioStateProgressive
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I don't buy that argument |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Not true |
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Withergyld
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
82. Incorrect |
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Mairead
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Wed Feb-11-04 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
54. The socialist case against gun control: Bush, Ashcroft, Scalia, Rehnquist |
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MrBenchley
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
99. Funny, they're all opposed to gun control too |
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MadHound
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Wed Feb-11-04 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
55. Thank you to committing yourself to making my neighborhood a living hell |
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moderate_hero
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Rather contradictory of you |
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OhioStateProgressive
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. you have the right to join a well regulated militia |
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moderate_hero
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. The militia you speak of |
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Withergyld
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
83. Title 10 section 311 of the United States Code defines "militia" as |
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MadHound
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. Then let me put this in terms you can understand |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Guns are illegal in Mexico |
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MadHound
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Sorry, that's a suckers' arguement and you know it! |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Not if you understand it |
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MadHound
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Economics/Black Market 101 |
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Deleted message |
waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Woops |
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slackmaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. I think you are unclear on the black market in firearms |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
101. If gun control is so futile |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Same argument works for swimming pool deaths too! |
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Withergyld
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I has to do with culture NOT gun ownership |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I just knew someone was going |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. We also have the most illegal drug deaths |
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Withergyld
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Wed Feb-11-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I don't need the NRA to figure this out |
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. What you should be asking... |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Good point |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. They are testing... |
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
100. WRONG!!!!!! |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. Exceptoins aside.. guns are illegal in Mexico |
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. what sexist crap |
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MadHound
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
77. Hey, did you even read my post? |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Wow, you get heated up |
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
90. you're wrong on both counts |
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slackmaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. I've read a lot of Freud but never seen evidence of your claim |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Not that i am defending but... |
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slackmaster
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Sure, and Freud also said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar |
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FatSlob
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
118. That doesn't make sense. |
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
93. Drivel |
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. no, the Soviets did NOT try that tactic |
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alwynsw
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. Read the history |
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beevul
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
58. Definitely... |
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WhoCountsTheVotes
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Wed Feb-11-04 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
63. The problem is gun control advocates are liars |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. It is impossible to negotiate when the enemy wants everything |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
102. How right your are |
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waylon
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. I dont blame them necessarily |
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BradCKY
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Second Amendment |
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Absolutely |
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
72. It never ceases to amaze me... |
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MrBenchley
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Wed Feb-11-04 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
80. Too funny... |
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el_gato
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. typical straw man bench |
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MrBenchley
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Wed Feb-11-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. No straw man at all gato |
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el_gato
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
110. your just upset |
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CO Liberal
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
95. Not "Liberal" - More Like "Vigilante" |
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el_gato
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. too bad |
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CO Liberal
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I Didn't Say That..... |
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Columbia
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Actually |
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FatSlob
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #95 |
117. I disagree |
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CO Liberal
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. There's a Thin Line... |
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FatSlob
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I can see your point |
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
122. Locking this thread |
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