Why Gun-Controllers Suddenly Love Bush's "Terrorist Watch List".

[GreenStormCloud]

They love it because it is so extremely inaccurate. As noted by others, the list is NOT a list of specific individuals, but it is a list of names and partial names. Since Joe Smith is the most common name in America, then I am very confident that there is a J. Smith on the list. So any Smith with a first tame that starts with J. is on the watch list. That is likely to be over a hundred thousand Americans, banned from buying guns because their name is similar to one on the list.

How names get on the list isn't public information but I would bet the Senators and Congresscritters that are trying to turn it into a "No-guns-for-you" list know how to get names on the list. If the list were to be turned into a "No-guns" list then you can bet that they would be manipulating the list to include as many different names as they could. They could ban millions of solid Americans from buying guns with no legal recourse for those citizens.

For those who wish to ban as many gun sales as they can, regardless of the individual's rights or of the consequences, it would be a dream come true. For the rest of us, it would be a nightmare.

It has nothing to do with hindering terrorists and everything to do with an attempt at a backdoor gun ban.

[safeinOhio]

1. Doesn't seem to be the case.

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/04/28/terror_watch_list_.html

Just because the government suspects that you have ties to terrorism doesn’t mean you can’t buy a gun.
Nearly 250 people on the government’s terror watch list purchased guns in the United States last year legally, the Associated Press reported Thursday, citing FBI figures they had obtained.
How’d they do it? They went about it like anyone else would, background check and all. The government can prevent people from purchasing a gun for 11 reasons, but being on the watch list isn't one of them. Convicted felons can't buy weapons, but the watch list includes people suspected of – but not necessarily convicted of – ties to terrorists.

[lawodevolution]

4. Please link source for the 250 number. I can make up numbers also and "leak" them

To the news.

[pipoman]

5. Schummer introduced a bill to apply the 'no fly' nonsense to gun sales..

[aquart]

2. Sorry. Favor gun control . Hate the watch list.

Hate the No Fly list.

Even telling me these rotten bureaucratic nightmares are a backdoor gun ban doesn't make me like them. I want front door gun control.

Take your assumptions and feed them hay.

[GreenStormCloud]

7. Take a look at the threads here on DU, and at bill introduced into Congress.

A lot of your fellow gun-controllers are in love with the Bush list.

[jpak]

12. prove it

:D

[oneshooter]

13. Well "you" for one. n/t

[Euromutt]

21. Then you're one of the principled ones

And good on you for that. I might disagree with you, but I won't accuse you of underhanded tactics. Problem is, there's no shortage of people--including Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Representatives Peter King of New York and Mike Quigley of Illinois--who do want to employ the Selectee and No Fly Lists as a means to a backdoor gun ban.

If you take issue with their methods, don't complain to the Gungeoneers; we already oppose their tactics. Complain to them.

[geckosfeet]

3. good luck with that

[ileus]

6. It makes them feel good knowing someone can't buy a firearm, not that they can't own them.

[msongs]

8. you forgot to mention the names of any "gun-controllers" who love that list. oh well nt

[Marengo]

9. Have a look in the thread linked, you'll find one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x415807

[GreenStormCloud]

10. Here are some DU threads for you:

There have been so many threads on this that I am surprised that you would really try to pretend that no one wants to use the Bush list to ban people from buying guns.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=416549&mesg_id=416549

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=415807&mesg_id=415807

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=416121&mesg_id=416121

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=415123&mesg_id=415123

[benEzra]

11. Ummm, how about the Brady Campaign?

http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/backgroundchecks/terrorgap

[oneshooter]

14. Have you looked in the mirror lately? n/t

[PavePusher]

15. Wilfull ignorance is the same as lying.

Hope that tactic works out for you.

[WatsonT]

16. Gun control is like a religion

anything that advances the cause is acceptable.

[ZombieHorde]

17. I was surprised to see some DUers thinking Bush's watch list is legitimate and good. nt

[WatsonT]

19. I wasn't. Banning guns trumps all to them. They will lash about for any tool they can use

If they could shred the constitution they would as long as it also means guns are outlawed.

[beevul]

18. Their embrace of bushes list is like this...

Their embrace of bushes list is like this:

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[WatsonT]

22. Don't be sorry, you're right. Worshipping a gun as a god would be a cult.

Unfortunately that doesn't ever happen in real life.

Perhaps you're thinking of the people from beneath the planet of the apes? And that was bomb, not a gun.

What does the great oracle Brady have to say on that movie?