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GreenStormCloud
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Mon May-23-11 08:16 PM Original message |
Tacoma homeowner shoots 2 men breaking into his garage |
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Mon May-23-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
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GreenStormCloud
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Mon May-23-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Why to you support a right for criminals to steal? N/T |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Why do you value property over life? |
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eqfan592
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Mon May-23-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I DON'T! |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Nowhere in this thread have I attacked those who believe differently from me |
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eqfan592
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Mon May-23-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Your very first post... |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Are you unable to distinguish topical snark from personal attack? |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
64. 'only one side of the story to tell'. |
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eqfan592
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Tue May-24-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
117. Listen, I'll be honest... |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. That's very cool of you to say. Thank you. |
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eqfan592
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Tue May-24-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. You're welcome. :) |
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GreenStormCloud
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Mon May-23-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Some property IS my life. |
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Mon May-23-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Thats easy |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. So if I think you're stealing my stuff, I can kill you? |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. No, but if you try to stop someone from stealing your stuff, and they attack you |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. In reply #29 I conceded a similar point |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. They could have waited. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. It's fortunate that you have information that the rest of us do not |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. You have it; you ignored it. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Curiously, you see only those elements that support your preconception |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-24-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. So what is YOUR theory then, Mr. Holmes? |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Why should I bother answering, when you've apparently read nothing I've posted so far? |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-24-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. You make a good point. |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Facts are what juries decide. |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
67. That would depend on the laws where you are at the time. n/t |
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Tue May-24-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
84. As far as I'm concerned |
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Blown330
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Mon May-23-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Grossly obvious... |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. That's one way to spin it, sure |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
45. Did you miss the part where they charged him? |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I most certainly did not miss the part where there are *alleged* to have charged him |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Fair enough. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. So stipulated. |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. High-five! |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Look at us--agreeing in the midst of all of this! |
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petronius
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Tue May-24-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
105. Get a room, you two |
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slackmaster
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Tue May-24-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
80. The proper question is why the ROBBERS valued another person's property more than THEIR OWN lives |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-24-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
87. Why do you ignore the self-defense part of the story? |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Why are you ignoring that the *alleged* burglars are *alleged* to have charged the shooter? |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Who used a *alleged* handgun to put an *alleged* hole in both *alleged* intruders. n/t |
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cleanhippie
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Tue May-24-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. I'm not, I am going on availbale info. |
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eqfan592
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Mon May-23-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. What a load of garbage. |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I can see that you've analyzed the story in its entirety and avoided hasty conclusions |
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Confusious
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Mon May-23-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. A garage is part of the home |
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eqfan592
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Mon May-23-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. If it's an attached garage... |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. No shortage of people in this forum willing to declare how other people think |
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ohnoyoudidnt
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Mon May-23-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. He didn't know if they were armed or not and it was two against one. |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-23-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. At the point the shooting occurred it had nothing to do w/ "property" |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. In point of fact, the *allegedly* charged him |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-23-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Because criminals are stupid |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It's a mistake IMO to dismiss criminals as stupid. |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Certain firearm policy control advocates base conclusions upon intial news stories all the time. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. We're talking about different shoes, though |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. That is true. |
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Loki
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Mon May-23-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Who needs police. |
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GreenStormCloud
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Mon May-23-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The police get there AFTER tthe crime. |
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Ilsa
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Mon May-23-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. And after the people who live there are maimed, raped, or murdered. |
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Loki
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Mon May-23-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Judge, jury and executioner, how convenient. |
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rl6214
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Mon May-23-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Sure, defend the criminal |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. We should absolutely defend the *alleged* criminal. |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I assume the same for the shooter. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Certainly. Have I suggested otherwise? |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. One could read one of your initial posts on this subject that way. |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. I appreciate that. |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Good point |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. If I were attacking you, I wouldn't hold you to that standard either |
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rl6214
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Tue May-24-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. You keep throwing out that word "alleged" |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. In these discussions I always fall on the side of presumed innocence |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #44 |
74. Huh? |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Again, you've determined that the event occurred exactly as described |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. I understand now. |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
70. So you do not believe in self defence................... |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. look guys Orrex is right on this one |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. I am confused. Did you reply to the correct post? n/t |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Possibly not I was responding to you and Rooster |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. My reply was to Loki. Who the hell is Rooster? n/t |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. One eyed fat man |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. I LIKE IT!!!!! n/t |
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ohnoyoudidnt
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Mon May-23-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. People who are unable to defend themselves so the police can investigate their murder. nt |
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Tue May-24-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
81. Everyone. Police provide many valuable services, including cleaning up messes like this one. |
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Mon May-23-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Darwin Award for charging at someone holding you at gunpoint. nt |
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Mon May-23-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Self regulating gene pool. |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Doesn't seem especially likely that two unarmed people would charge a guy with a gun |
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Mon May-23-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It is possible the homeowner is lying, but there are a lot of very stupid criminals out there. nt |
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Mon May-23-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Yeah, because it's never happened before, right? |
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Orrex
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Mon May-23-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Glad to see you're willing to convict the accused without bothering to hear the whole story |
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Mon May-23-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I haven't.. |
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AtheistCrusader
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Tue May-24-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
51. The police officer that witnessed Joe Horn shooting those two kids in Texas |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Those two "kids" were both known gangers. n/t |
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Tue May-24-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
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Mon May-23-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Always Glad To Hear People Defend Their Property |
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Mon May-23-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. ................ |
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Mon May-23-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. I came home to find a guy in my garage once |
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Mon May-23-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. "This ain't Texas " |
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Mon May-23-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Well, this is Texas |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
65. "pussified"? Wow I thought this was a progressive website |
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Tue May-24-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I'm a member at TFL...they can't say pussified |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I'll bet |
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Tue May-24-11 08:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. TFL and THR are considered "family" sites both are policed pretty well. |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I know but that word is offensive it reduces women to their reproductive organs |
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Tue May-24-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. I thought the term was derived from "scaredy cat" |
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Loki
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Tue May-24-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
85. Wow, that's real appropriate. |
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rl6214
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Tue May-24-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
89. Bad choice of words and I apologize for it |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Thank you |
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Mon May-23-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. 12+1 of 45.........My garage contains my gun safe. |
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Mon May-23-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Well you take the prize! Just when I thought I'd heard everything |
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one-eyed fat man
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Tue May-24-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
78. Why is that? |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #78 |
91. And usually painful. Either physically or in the wallet, sometimes both. n/t |
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Tue May-24-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Mine isn't that large...it's only 72x42 800# or something like that. |
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Starboard Tack
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Tue May-24-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
110. Sounds like you're ready for WW3 and the Rapture |
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oneshooter
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Tue May-24-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Why would say something like that? |
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Tue May-24-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. I was addressing another member |
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Tue May-24-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. And I asked you a question, which you, |
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Wed May-25-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Your question was "Would I have you leave them lying around?" |
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oneshooter
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Wed May-25-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. I see............ |
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Starboard Tack
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Wed May-25-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Let's start with yours and move on up from there |
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oneshooter
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Wed May-25-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. So you want all firearms melted down? n/t |
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Wed May-25-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #130 |
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Wed May-25-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. " demonstrated no inkling of common sense" |
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Wed May-25-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. I think you mean two of a kind |
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Wed May-25-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. No I mean what I wrote. If I did not mean it I would not have written it. |
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Wed May-25-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #140 |
146. Yes, but I said you can keep one |
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Thu May-26-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #146 |
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Wed May-25-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. I do have a very good reason - self defense. |
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Tue May-24-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. That's a bigoted remark. I'm going to go ahead and put you on my Ignore list now. |
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Tue May-24-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. There are investments and there are investments. |
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Wed May-25-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #122 |
142. Irony of ironies- Gun prohibitionists help make guns a good investment |
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one-eyed fat man
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Thu May-26-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #142 |
149. If you had been an American sergeant |
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Mon May-23-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. Charging him........maybe a bad idea. Pulling trigger does not take long. n-t |
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MicaelS
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Tue May-24-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
98. I do value property over life, here’s why…. |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I agree up to a point |
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MicaelS
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Tue May-24-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. So what was the most expensive tool you ever bought? n/t |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I paid 800 dollars for my roll away alone |
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opiate69
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Tue May-24-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
113. Seeing as how the deceased in this instance was actually a friend of mine... |
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Orrex
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Tue May-24-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. I'm sorry that you lost your friend |
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opiate69
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Tue May-24-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Thanks, Orrex.. and yeah, sad all the way around.. |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-24-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. I'm sorry that it had to be your friend |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-25-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. "Detectives and forensic specialists found evidence the burglars had been inside the home" |
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Wed May-25-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. Yeah that's another weird little detail.. |
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cleanhippie
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Wed May-25-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Don't know, but its a good question. |
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Wed May-25-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. It's possible that they took much more care in the home... |
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Tue May-24-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Actually, it's not as hard to square as you may think. |
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Wed May-25-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #113 |
126. Sorry for the loss of your friend. |
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Wed May-25-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
131. Sorry to hear, that, man. Do you know what he was doing there in the first place? |
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Wed May-25-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Thanks hippie and slack.. |
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Wed May-25-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #135 |
144. Obviously he WAS actually there. |
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Wed May-25-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. They picked up his body in the alley |
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Wed May-25-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. There will be blood splats at the scene of the shooting. |
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Tue May-24-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
114. another link |
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Wed May-25-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #114 |
132. "Detectives and forensic specialists found evidence the burglars had been inside the home" |
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Thu May-26-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #114 |
148. And another link... |
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Thu May-26-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Tony was a career criminal since he was 13. |
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