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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:05 PM
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S.1805 is dead in the Senate
Overwhelmingly voted down just now.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:07 PM
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1. It would be helpful
....to identify it by name rather than just by number.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:09 PM
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2. Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act
Killed by poison-pill amendments.

So much for that.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:10 PM
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3. Thanks Slack
I figured that anyone who hangs out down here would already know what it was.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:13 PM
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4. CNN: NRA told pro-gun senators to vote no
Apparently, the NRA called up the pro-gun senators and said they should vote against the final bill because it contained the assault weapons ban and other amendments.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:17 PM
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9. Good riddance to one of the worst bills in living memory
As the scummy thugs themselves said: " A single judgement by a rogue judge or jury could wipe out the entire firearms industry making our gun rights worthless."

http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/Read.aspx?ID=984

That's certainly the sound an honest industry makes.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:22 PM
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10. Don't count your chickens before they hatch
HR 1036 is still alive.

:evilgrin:
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Stoker Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:28 PM
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11. I know I did...
I am the NRA, and I did indeed fax and call both of my senators this morning and urged them to support S.1805 but only in a "clean" form, meaning with no ammendments.

I don't know how my senators voted yet, but I'm glad to see that the bill was killed once polluted.

Stoker
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:43 PM
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14. Proof Once Again.....
...that the NRA says "Jump", and the brain-dead Republicans ask "How high?"
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:14 PM
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5. Now official-- it loses 8 to 90 (n/t)
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Dolomite Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:14 PM
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6. And the Assault Weapons Ban dies with it!!!
194 days and counting until it expires!!!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:36 PM
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13. Actually, no
Both bills in the House and Senate are alive and well....

And it's going to be even tougher now to keep them bottled up in committee....
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:15 PM
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7. Hmmmm
Did the Repubs innoculate themselves against criticism by putting poison pills in the bill...or, more likely vote with the Democrats just enough to get the poison pills in? When I worked in legislative service years ago the technique was called "having a vote in each pocket".
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:17 PM
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8. I think you hit it on the nose
Having a vote in each pocket indeed.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:30 PM
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12. I don't know
I'm just not that sure that it is possible to do that in the U.S. senate. I really don't think that most of these senators are going to vote a certain way because somebody told them to do it (Well, if they donated some money, maybe, but not anyone else). Particularly, senators like Richard Lugar, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are rarely very controllable by the leadership and I doubt they were this time. If this was the House of Representatives, it might be a different case.
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