Road rage incident on Rt. 302 leads to gun charges

[jpak]

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Road-rage-incident-on-Route-302-leads-to-gun-charges.html

A Naples man faces charges of criminal threatening and having a loaded firearm in a vehicle after what authorities describe as a road rage incident in Casco Sunday.

Deputies with the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office arrested Matthew Martin, 38, shortly after the 5:35 p.m. incident on Route 302.

The alleged victims, a New Hampshire couple with their two 2-year-old sons in the car, told a deputy that a line of westbound traffic had pulled over to let pass a state trooper's cruiser with emergency lights. As cars pulled back into the roadway, a red Ford Excursion was unable to merge back into traffic right away, the New Hampshire couple told the deputy.

The Excursion drove up close behind the couple and when the man looked in his mirror, he says he saw the driver of the Excursion holding what looked like a shotgun out the window pointing toward the car, the sheriff's office said.

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[Glassunion]

1. Lemme guess...

The NRA is somehow behind this?

[TheWraith]

2. So a guy does something illegal, and gets busted for it.

And in your view that provides evidence that all gun owners are murderous maniacs.

Do you also view sex offenders as a reason to ban consensual sex?

[arcane1]

3. Umm... the OP quoted the news report without additional comment...

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[damntexdem]

8. And a most-positive one at that.

Go JPAK!

[eqfan592]

18. Yeah, GO JPAK!

Who cares about statistics, lets just cheery pick out anecdotal evidence that supports our ignorant position and ignore the statistical realities! That's the way we go about it as progressives, right?!?!!......right?......

[sharesunited]

10. A tireless history illuminating the folly of allowing guns and ammo loose in American society.

[spin]

14. Isn't it amazing that we have the longest lasting written constitution in the world ...

when you consider how foolish the founding fathers were to add the Bill of Rights and include the Second Amendment?

:sarcasm:

[sharesunited]

16. If they saw how callously the People are shooting each other, they would positively shit.

In any event, it was included in the BOR to appease skeptics of a strong federal government.

Subsequently tested and rendered obsolete by the Civil War.

[spin]

17. Please explain how the Civil War made the Second Amendment obsolete ...

In the first place the Civil war was not an attempt to overthrow the government but was an attempt to separate from it.

The American Civil War is not a revolution, but a civil war. It was between two major political factions; in this case, one faction decided that it wanted to self-govern. It is classified as a civil war because (a) it was solely between citizens of one country (b) the point was political independence of one group, NOT the wholesale replacement of the national government for the entire country and (c) secession was a stated goal

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_revolution_and_a_civil_war#ixzz1NxyGE6KY

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

20. Re: Please explain how the Civil War made the Second Amendment obsolete

:toast: Good one! :rofl:

[Bold Lib]

21. "If they saw how callously the People are shooting each other, they would positively shit."

You do realize you are talking about people in a day and age that would often settle matters of honor with a dual right? Kinda makes your above statement seem to be a bunch of BS you grabbed out of your ass.

[sharesunited]

26. Duals are the reason for the Second Amendment?

One shot, hit or miss, with No Sanction In Law. Had to be conducted In Secret, and at the sufferance of society.

Compare to VA Tech, Fort Hood, Tucson. Envisioned by the Founders?

[Bold Lib]

33. No, you have been told many times of why we have the 2A. Please don't play ignorant.

Duals were not conducted in secret. Perhaps you may recall a U.S. president that once had a dual on the White House lawn. If not you really need to bone up on your history.

My response of duals was in response to your ridiculous comment about our founders being appalled. They of course, would not. THEY understood why we needed the 2A.

[sharesunited]

39. To go to war with the police and the military? No you're not.

[ergot]

41. With immense trepidation, I feel I should tell you, it's duel, not dual.

Forgive me, I'm anal retentive about English grammar and spelling.

[Bold Lib]

23. I recall the 13th amendment abolishing slavery but I don't recall anything that repealed the 2A.

Could you cite that please? Oh, and the most recent 2A test before SCOTUS was what exactly?

[sharesunited]

27. Heller and McDonald are the Plessey v. Ferguson of our time. Awaiting Brown v. Board of Ed.

[gejohnston]

28. How do you figure?

I always thought United States v. Cruikshank was more like Plessey v Ferguson and Heller was more like Brown.

[sharesunited]

29. I can see why you might think that.

If you believe that empowering anyone to deprive anyone else of all their genuine Constitutional rights is somehow a triumph of freedom.

[gejohnston]

30. doesn't answer my question

[krispos42]

44. So that's how you define freedom?

A society where every individual is too weak to hurt anybody else?

[Bold Lib]

34. So you DO understand that the civil war did NOT abolish the 2A.

You just want it to be that way. Sorry, saying something over and over does not make it so.

yup

[sharesunited]

37. Are you trying to make a distinction between

express repeal and simply being overtaken by events (i.e. rendered moot)?

That is what is called a distinction without a difference.

[Bold Lib]

45. You are the one saying that the 2A was made obsolete by the civil war.

Such is not the case in any way shape or fashion. You may wish it to be so, but it is not.

[rrneck]

36. Billions of electrons

were peacefully going about their business until you diverted them to write that bullshit.

[sharesunited]

38. You might be misusing more of them in an attempt to deflect the truth.

[rrneck]

40. Well I wont have to worry about

deflecting anything coming from you.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

19. That it has lasted this long...

...is rather impressive. That it has been or is in the process of being modeled by over 90% of the 192 independent nations in the world speaks volumes.

Thomas Jefferson looked upon the Constitution as a standing monument and a permanent example for other peoples. "It is impossible," he wrote, "not to that we are acting for all mankind." President John Adams was convinced that American political ideas would profoundly affect other countries. Alexander Hamilton thought that it had been reserved to the American people to decide the question whether societies themselves are really capable of establishing good government. James Madison, president and contributor to the Federalist Papers, believed that posterity would be indebted to the Founding Fathers for their political achievement and for the sound governing principles provided for in the U.S. Constitution.

This information has been excerpted from an article by Albert Blaustein titled "THE U.S. CONSTITUTION: AMERICAS MOST IMPORTANT EXPORT". {Albert P. Blaustein was professor of law at Rutgers (The State University of New Jersey) School of Law. He authored numerous scholarly works on the subject of constitutionalism including a six-volume work on the U.S. Constitution entitled Constitution of Dependencies and Special Sovereignties. Blaustein helped draft more than 40 constitutions worldwide and visited many of those countries. In 1991, he helped to write the constitution for the Russian Republic. Professor Blaustein died in 1994.}

[Glassunion]

24. We should thank the Dutch.

They inspired a good portion.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

25. Without a doubt...

...ideologies from many cultures contributed to the US Constitution. There are great similarities between US laws and English common law. IIRC governing principles from the French, Dutch, German, English and numerous other societies were drawn on by the founding fathers. Principles as old as the ten commandments and the ideals of the Greeks and Romans. What the US founders formed was an elegant constitution.

It was unprecedented in brevity. Forming a well functioning and enduring government with a 100 page governing document is a formidable task. The wisdom and eloquence summoned to do that in less than 10 pages in nothing less than awesome.

[flamin lib]

13. As do you. nt

[jpak]

31. Where did I say that? Clue - I did not say anything like that, so stop making shit up

yup

[TheWraith]

43. So are you willing to say this person's criminal behavior does not reflect normal gun owners at all?

:)

[ileus]

4. SUV's kill people...

[spin]

6. Defense against some fool with road rage is one reason I carry a concealed weapon ...

I go out of my way to be a polite driver but it is always possible that I might do something that irritates another driver.

A co-worker who had a concealed weapons permit was driving to work for the graveyard shift one night when he managed to piss off another driver. Several miles down the road both cars stopped at a red light. My co-worker found himself pinned in with a car in front of him, one beside him and a deep ditch on his right. He glanced into his rear view mirror and saw the angry driver leaving his vehicle with a tire iron in his hand.

My co-worker drew a 9mm pistol and held it in his hand across the steering wheel. When the angry individual walked up to his driver's door he noticed the pistol, swore, and walked back to his vehicle. No shots were fired and the firearm was never pointed at anyone. Its presence stopped what might have turned into a really nasty situation.

My co-worker said that if he would have been able to simply drive away, he would have.

[Glassunion]

7. Stupid.

You realize all of the what if's that could have happened.

What if he missed and killed the 3 y/o in the car next to him, or in front of him?
What if the guy with the tire iron took his gun from him and used it against him?
What if the guy was just getting out of his car to look at a tire that was running low and was shot by your friend for doing nothing?
What if the guy in the car next to him was a cop and mistook him for a bad guy and shot him?
Etc...

[ileus]

9. what if it prevented him getting a tire iron shampoo...???

safety first what if's later...

[Logical]

11. What is your suggestion for this guy? Wait until he hits you with the tire iron? n-t

[Glassunion]

12. Sorry, should have included the sarcasm thingy...

Were there any more memes that I forgot?

[Logical]

15. LOL....sorry........

I knew you were very pro gun but guess I was in a serious mood. Sorry for having my sarcasm mode turned off. Funny post now that I am not clueless. But great job of imitating a anti!!

[ileus]

22. oops....my bad also...I apologize

[ergot]

42. What if my grandma had 3 towels NEVER MIND

oops sorry didn't see the replies

[rl6214]

32. Point?

Oh yeah, you didn't make one here either, just more drive-by news story spamming.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

35. Possibly he could...

...switch to the handle "non_sequit@rd"?