Weapons stolen form El Salvador end up with Mexican drug gangs ...

[spin]

El Salvador Military Weapons: More Trafficked than Stolen
Thursday, 02 June 2011 11:49



El Salvador has called for regional action to stop weapons being stolen and sold to Mexican drug traffickers. But as a look at recent incidents in Central America shows, these "robberies" of weapons often seem more like inside jobs carried out by corrupt elements in the military.

Defense Minister David Munguia's statements followed Monday's arrest of a former army lieutenant -- who had reportedly deserted in December 2010 -- caught while apparently trying to sell three M-16 machine guns, uniforms, and military equipment. Her buyer was suspected to be a representive of a branch of Mexican drug gang the Zetas operating in Guatemala.

***snip***

The ready access of Central American weapons, especially combined with the increased presence of Mexican groups like the Sinaloa Cartel and the Zetas, means that much-discussed efforts to crack down on American gun traffic would likely to do little to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of Mexico’s wealthiest groups.

Even if a robust new assault weapons ban is approved by the U.S. Congress, the institutional weakness in the region, the tighter links between Mexican groups and Central American criminals, and the glut of unused weapons available for sale all mean that alternative arms providers are close by.
http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/1023-el-salvador-military-weapons-more-trafficked-than-stolen

[RC]

1. And El Salvador get their weapons from...

Ledme guess... The Good ol' US of A! Ain't that right?

[Katya Mullethov]

2. Dont forget the Marxist Freedom Fighters

Did Hugo ever get his plant built ?

[friendly_iconoclast]

3. I believe he did. Some of its products are known to have serial numbers

Good progressives should remember:


A Mexican citizen killed by means of a good Bolivarian socialist AK clone is nowhere near as dead as one killed by means of

one of those icky capitalist ARs....

[Katya Mullethov]

7. One of those would be kinda neat

But a Gunwalker Rifle with irrevocable provenance ? Sheeit . That would be the jewel of any collection .

[spin]

4. Yup ...

US Military Assistance Policies on Arms Sales and Gifts



Arms trade between countries internationally has become a booming industry, especially over the past decades. As of 2004, the international arms trade totaled $30 billion and the U.S. sat on top with over 50% of those sales. The top fifteen recipients of Latin America took $3.5 billion arms from the U.S. between 2000 and 2003. <5>

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El Salvador

Over the course of El Salvador's twelve year civil war from 1980-1992, the U.S. funded the Latin American government with most of there weapons. The U.S. exported 32,474 M-16 assault rifles as well as 260,000 grenades to the Salvadorans. <4> The Martí National Liberation Front(FLMN)was the only communist party in El Salvador at the time, so the U.S. had interest in the right-wing government. They supplied arms including weapons, helicopters, surveillance, and vehicles to the Salvadoran government. They also patrolled the El Salvador and Nicaragua intercoastal borders to hault illegal arms trafficking going to the guerrilla fighters.<7>
http://wikis.lib.ncsu.edu/index.php/US_Military_Assistance_Policies_on_Arms_Sales_and_Gifts

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

9. I've said it before and...

...I'll say it again:

Is it Fiction?


THIS FILM IS BASED ON ACTUAL EVENTS

WHILE PRIVATE GUNRUNNERS CONTINUE TO THRIVE, THE WORLD'S BIGGEST
ARMS SUPPLIERS ARE THE U.S., U.K., RUSSIA, FRANCE AND CHINA.
THEY ARE ALSO THE FIVE PERMANENT MEMBERS OF THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL.

[GreenStormCloud]

5. The Communist rebels were also armed with USA guns.

Many of the M-16s that were captured from them had serial numbers of guns that were given to the South Vietnamese government.

[ileus]

14. American gun shows.....sheese haven't you learned anything?

[ileus]

6. No No....all weapons come from Law abiding US citizens...I read it on the internetz

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

8. I smell a conspiracy.

:tinfoilhat:

[rl6214]

10. No no no no no

***K and ***T told me right here that they all come from US gun stores and gun shows along the Mexican border. That and they are sold to smugglers by PREVIOUSLY law abiding citizens.

[spin]

11. And that's why we need another assault weapons ban ...

that's what the media would love you to believe.

I wonder why people distrust the media so much.

Distrust in U.S. Media Edges Up to Record High
September 29, 2010

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- For the fourth straight year, the majority of Americans say they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. The 57% who now say this is a record high by one percentage point.






http://www.gallup.com/poll/143267/distrust-media-edges-record-high.aspx

[aikoaiko]

12. Brady Campaign Responds: Close the 'gunshow loophole'...for the children.

:rofl:

[spin]

17. If the Brady Campaign had any balls ...

they would ask for a system to allow the NICS background check system to be opened up for all private sales, not only those at gun shows.

I personally will not sell any of my firearms to anyone who does not have a concealed weapons permit and I have to know this person. Obviously I don't sell many of my firearms, but when I do, I am fairly certain that they will not be used to harm others.

I would be more than willing to go to a dealer and have him run a background check on an individual who wished to buy one of my firearms for a reasonable fee of say, $10 to $15. Of course, I would oppose this being tied into any registration scheme. This might also be on a voluntary basis. If the buyer refused to go to the dealer to run the background check, I would simply refuse to sell him my firearm.

While I am sure that a number of gun owners would oppose this idea, I am also sure that some responsible owners would agree,

[lawodevolution]

13. wait but but but the 90% number, machine guns and rpg7 come from gun shows

how else are we going to ban guns in the USA. It's for the greater good!!!! stop posting the truth!!!! "90% of crime guns in Mexico come from the USA"!!!!!

We have to focus on "assault rifles" that are used in 1% of violent crimes, and on guns that are involved in 1% of all deaths in the USA (low given that 3% of population is in prison or on parole), or the 1% of crime guns which come from gun shows. Let's get those 1%'s taken care of first, then we can go after the real problems.

[ileus]

15. American gun industry is the merchant of death...guns kill people

[spin]

16. The sad part that is often the weapons we sell to other countries ...

are often misused by dictators to suppress freedom.

The counter argument is that if we don't provide those weapons, China, Russia and other nations will.