7th Circuit Court of Appeals Holds NRA Entitled to Attorneys’ Fees in Lawsuits Against Chicago

[shadowrider]

And Oak Park

FAIRFAX, Va. --(Ammoland.com)- Today, the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals conclusively and forcefully held, without need for oral argument, that the National Rifle Association has the right to recover attorneys’ fees in its lawsuits against the city of Chicago’s and the village of Oak Park’s unconstitutional gun bans.

The court held that the NRA was a prevailing party in the case of National Rifle Association v. City of Chicago and Village of Oak Park.

“This is a Second Amendment victory and a civil rights victory. The National Rifle Association and the Second Amendment prevailed against those who sought to deny the right to keep and bear arms in Chicago and Oak Park,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action.

“The attempt to avoid paying the NRA’s attorneys’ fees was rightly found to be unjust by the Court.”

http://www.ammoland.com/2011/06/03/seventh-circuit-court-of-appeals-holds-nra-entitled-to-attorneys-fees-in-lawsuits-against-chicago/

[sharesunited]

1. Terrible thing to financially benefit those monsters.

[PavePusher]

3. "monsters"? Really?

Do they eat babies, too?

[sharesunited]

7. In a manner of speaking.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/nature_coast/pasco-child-accidentally-shoots-self-032610

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/fb61b3d1992d40ecbd2b3046e22a8ce8/KY--Child-Shot-Dies/

http://www.kltv.com/story/14026427/2-yr-old-child-shoots-self-at-cherokee-co-home?redirected=true

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378613/Houston-school-shooting-Kindergartener-6-accidentally-shoots-2-classmates.html

http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Mother-Accidentally-Shot-by-Son-Father-also/23xOSWIZ0EqIn9LjZ7qqqA.cspx

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=238236

[shadowrider]

11. Yup. And they don't bother to cook them first n/t

[oneshooter]

25. I like them sauted in butter, with garlic, onion and mushrooms. n/t

[spin]

6. It's a lot like the biblical story (or myth) of David versus Goliath.

In this case Chicago is Goliath.

Power to the People!

[sharesunited]

10. The People are having bullets enter their bodies.

Power to the triggermen.

[spin]

12. One again you ignore legitimate self defense ...

If an attacker intends to rape a woman and she shoots him and stops his attack - is that wrong?

If a mugger decides to attack an individual on the street and not only wants his money but intents to hurt him and possibly kill him, is it wrong for the victim to stop his attack by shooting the attacker with a legally concealed firearm?

If a criminal is breaking into an occupied home and is shot by the homeowner, how is that wrong?

If someone is threatened by a criminal who intends to harm or kill and he shows he has a firearm and the criminal decides to run, where is the harm? This often happens.

In any society there are predators and victims. Disarming honest citizens merely empowers the predators.

I don't live in fear of predators as I am armed. I may not survive an encounter but at least I have a fair chance to defend myself. I don't wish to ever have to use my weapon but if it is truly necessary I will.

I fair chance is all I can ask for. If I fail, so be it.

[sharesunited]

13. It sounds very noble Spin. But the harm from society's access to guns and ammo is the concern.

The cure is worse than the disease.

[spin]

17. In the first place there is no way you can ban and confiscate all the 300,000,000 fireams ...

in our nation without causing for more bloodshed than we have currently. While many gun owners would turn over their weapons, many others would start a guerrilla war which would disrupt our nation. Some states might actually separate from the union. If you consider the Tea Baggers to be a problem just imagine what would happen if you decided to confiscate all weapons. We can argue all day about the results but there is no doubt that there would be considerable disruption.

Even if you were successful, firearms would be smuggled into our nation and many of those would be fully automatic weapons which today are uncommon in our nation. Prohibition never works, it merely creates a market for the prohibited items. Review the history on our prohibition of alcohol or our record on our War on Drugs.

You have often proposed making firearms scarce, but what you fail to acknowledge is that firearms do not wear out like cars. With reasonable maintenance, which means proper storage in a dry environment and occasional oiling, they will last through generations and still be fully functional. Ammunition if properly stored will also last far more than 50 years and producing new ammunition is not a problem. You can cast bullets from lead and a cartridge case can be reloaded many times. You do need primers and powder and the equipment to reload but once again a stockpile of powder and primers will last indefinitely if properly stored and protected against temperature extremes and moisture. You can reload quality ammo with a kit that costs only around $30 from Amazon.com. I reloaded around 6000 .38 special cases with a Lee Loader many years ago before I decided to invest in a slightly more expensive reloading kit. Lee loaders are available for many calibers and are a very cheap device for producing VERY accurate ammo.


Lee Loader Kit For 38 Special
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Loader-Kit-38-Special/dp/B00162RS7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1307225036&sr=8-1

And you constantly state falsehoods like "The cure is worse than the disease."

Even the lowest estimate of defensive gun uses says that such events occur 65,000 times per year. source: http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Hemenway1.htm

For sake of argument, I will accept this estimate. That would mean that over 10 years 650,000 people have successfully defended themselves with a firearm. Are you going to argue that it would have been far better if those people would not have firearms available to defend their lives or health?

I don't expect you to change your views and in fact expect to reply to you with the same information many times in the future.

You have your dedicated views and you will continue to post them every chance you get. That's fine, I enjoy replying to you.

Still, I have to wonder how you can look at yourself in the mirror every morning.

[PavePusher]

23. Nope, your math is wrong.

From the various government stats, approx 30K gun deaths and 70K injuries each year, and approx. 108K verified gun defensive uses each year. Almost certainly an order of magnitude more that go unreported or ignored by police, according to various surveys.

Your math needs a do-over.

[sharesunited]

28. Here's your daily dose of reality.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/05/florida-man-allegedly-goes-on-shooting-rampage-killing-daughter-and-ex-wifes/

[PavePusher]

31. And this refutes me... how? n/t

[oneshooter]

24. Answer me this. If you manage to get them banned and confiscated

How would you propose to pay for them? Remember the Fifth Amendment?

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[beevul]

15. Oops.

You mentioned triggerman...


Must have had a slip of mind, since, as your other posts demonstrate, you don't blame the triggermen, you blame the gun.

And/or the nra.


I'm sure you'll get it right next time.

[sharesunited]

16. What are triggermen without a trigger to pull? Toothless tigers.

[spin]

18. All I can say is Don Quixote ...

Don Quixote

***snip***

The protagonist of the book is Alonso Quixano (or Quijano), a retired country gentleman nearing 50 years of age, who lives in an unnamed section of La Mancha with his niece and a housekeeper. He has become obsessed with books of chivalry, and believes their every word to be true, despite the fact that many of the events in them are clearly impossible. Quixano eventually appears to other people to have lost his mind due to lack of sleep and food from dedicating all of his time to reading.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

[TPaine7]

20. Some of the people very much need to have bullets enter their bodies. n/t

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30. Actually...

it'll benefit gun owners everywhere, as now the award can be used to replenish our war chest and spent on the legal costs
for other court actions.

[PavePusher]

2. Hahahahaha!!! How many times have we predicted this?

Chicago should sue Citizen Daley for the money...

Schadenfreude... I hear it goes well on Chicago-style pizza.

[spin]

8. Considering the economic situation ...

wasting money opposing Supreme Court Rulings is foolish ego. The money could go for far more useful purposes.

[Katya Mullethov]

14. In the nineties , it was " All aboard the gravy train ! "

Gonna soak us up a buncha money from them big old gun makers , yes siree . Two for one , we'll get paid to end their reign of terror over our streets and schools . STEP RIGHT UP STEP RIGHT UP EVERYONES A WINNAHHHHH !

[spin]

19. You have a great sense of humor. (n/t)

[aikoaiko]

4. Richard Daley should offer to pay this bill as he is responsible for the bad decision.

to fight this lawsuit that protected the civil liberties of Chicago residents.

[DonP]

21. Not likely. We were just informed that we will be paying for Daley's armed security detail...

... for the rest of his life.

Still no right of self defense for regular citizens, but the "retired" mayor just got a $100,000 teaching position at the U of C on top of his $200,000 a year pension. Then they signed off on a 24/7 armed security detail for the rest of his and his wife's life.

So, when it finally reaches SCOTUS Rahm will raise the property taxes and try and blame the NRA for shorting the Chicago schools.

[aikoaiko]

26. His hypocrisy and costly decisions myst be infuriating to Chicago folks who support the RKBA.

Daly was and is a loser.

[bluestateguy]

5. Well, they won. Chicago lost.

Chicago's argument in court was laughable. This is the right decision.

[spin]

9. Damn right! (n/t)

[virginia mountainman]

22. The taxpayers will cough it up..

And remember, that lawsuits are ON GOING..And as before they will most likely loose again..

Resulting in more money PAID, to the NRA, and other pro-civil rights orgs.

[ileus]

27. Finally a small win for the little people.

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29. Other cities/communites/states should take heed...

and cease with their foolish defense and support of unconstitutional gun control laws... otherwise, it'll be their turn to pay.

[friendly_iconoclast]

32. +1. I'm looking at you, Boston and Philadelphia.

Knock off the anti-gun jihads or be prepared to fork over big time....