GUNS IN THE NEWS--March 4, 2004

[MrBenchley]

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[MrBenchley]

1. Ky. Congressman's Brother Hurt in Shooting

"LEXINGTON, Ky. - The brother of Rep. Ben Chandler was recovering from a bullet wound at a Kentucky hospital Wednesday, a day after he was shot by an unidentified gunman.
Matthew Chandler was stopped with car trouble on a street in Lexington when a man stuck a gun through an open window Tuesday and shot him in the side, police said.
He was listed in fair condition at the University of Kentucky's Albert B. Chandler Medical Center, which is named for his grandfather, a former governor.
Police are investigating the shooting but declined to disclose details.
Ben Chandler, the former state attorney general who last month won a special election to represent central Kentucky in Congress, spoke to his brother by phone Wednesday. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_go_co/brf_congressman_s_brother_1

[MrBenchley]

2. Police Charge York Man With Shooting Death Of 16-Year-Old (PA)

"Police Wednesday charged William Santiago, 21, of York, with the homicide of William Barnes, 16, of Bethlehem.
Barnes was found shot several times in the 700 block of Lynch Way on Feb. 23. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040303/lo_wgal/2035117

[MrBenchley]

3. Jury Finds Teen Guilty In Punchbowl Shooting (HI)

"A jury Wednesday found an 18-year-old man guilty of attempted murder in the shooting of a man in his Punchbowl home last summer.
Miti Maugaotega testified that he was in the process of looking for valuables when Eric Kawamoto, 44, arrived home. He said he ordered Kawamoto downstairs, but Kawamoto didn't comply, and instead confronted Maogaotega.
The teenager testified that he didn't plan to shoot anyone that day, and had never fired the gun before.
Kawamoto survived the shooting and testified against Maugaotega in court. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040304/lo_kitv/2035296

[MrBenchley]

4. 2nd suspect in fatal shooting surrenders (MD)

"Anthony Lane, 38, is charged with second-degree assault and three counts of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. Lane surrendered to police late Tuesday at the Western District station in Odenton.
He was being held without bond yesterday at the Anne Arundel County Detention Center near Annapolis.
According to police, Lane and Nathaniel Campbell, 22, crashed a party at the house of Lane's ex-girlfriend Saturday and started a fight when they were asked to leave.
Police said that Lane ordered Campbell to get a gun, and that Campbell then opened fire on a crowd of people outside the house in the 2000 block of Lake Grove Lane. "

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ar.arrest04mar04,0,6782772.story?coll=bal-local-arundel

[Romulus]

9. criminal misuse in gun control paradise

it is illegal to possess a handgun, much less a loaded one, in Maryland unless you are:

1) on property you own or where you reside,
2) at your owned place of business,
3) at a legal shooting range,
4) or transporting it, unloaded, between those places.

[MrBenchley]

14. And this by you is an argument for MORE guns?

Guess that's RKBA "logic"....or whatever it is.. No wonder you guys think Mary Rosh is a scientist.

[slackmaster]

20. I don't believe Romulus said anything about more guns

Where did that come from, MrBenchley?

[Stoker]

22. Well...

He didn't say anything about Mary Rosh, either, but once again we hear about her, too. Who is Mary Rosh, anyway?

Stoker

[Wickerman]

23. here, new guy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=42845

[MrBenchley]

24. The question everyone's asking...

http://www.whoismaryrosh.com/

http://www.whoismaryrosh.com/lottresearchblog.html

[slackmaster]

41. And Mary Rosh is a Red Herring

Thank you MrBenchley.

[MrBenchley]

5. Slain man a victim of crimes repeatedly (NC)

"Walter Yanez-Cruz had been the target of at least three Charlotte crimes since 2001.
He was a victim for the last time early Tuesday.
Yanez-Cruz, 22, was found shot in the chest outside Break Room Billiards at 6427 E. Independence Blvd. Paramedics took him to Carolinas Medical Center about 12:40 a.m. where he later died.
Herron has been charged or cited more than 50 times since 1996, accused of violations and offenses ranging from driving with a revoked license to robbery with a dangerous weapon, Mecklenburg records show. While Herron has been a frequent suspect, police records show Yanez-Cruz was a repeated victim.
Yanez-Cruz and some friends were in his apartment on Monroe Road Aug. 29, 2001, when a man came to the door, according to a police report. There was a struggle and Yanez-Cruz was shot. Two men were charged in that shooting."

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/8101226.htm

Worth noting that despite his record, Herron could have walked into any gun show in North Carolina (or most neighboring states) and bought a gun without any background check.

[MrBenchley]

6. Standoff Ends In Deadly Shootout (OH)

"A standoff on Cleveland's east side came to an end in a deadly shootout overnight, NewsChannel5 reported.
After 12 hours, police went into the house on Lincoln Avenue and East 151st Street and found Eren Beyah, 27, on the second floor with a weapon. Officers said he pointed a gun at them and police fired, killing Beyah.
Police said the shooting started at about 2:30 p.m. when Beyah began firing at construction workers near his home.
When police arrived, Beyah reportedly fired several shots at police, who returned fire. He then barricaded himself inside the home on Lincoln Avenue and East 151st Street. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=387&ncid=387&e=3&u=/ibsys/20040304/lo_wews/2035137

[MrBenchley]

7. Man Shot, Killed In Car Outside Southside Motel (FL)

"Detectives are looking for suspects after a deadly shooting outside a Southside motel Wednesday night.
Police were called to the parking lot outside a La Quinta Inn off J. Turner Butler Boulevard near Interstate 95, finding the body of a man inside a car.
"Shots were fired, according to witnesses," Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Lt. Roger Butler said. "A black male victim was struck and unknown number of times in his vehicle. The vehicle continued to move ... it came to rest against a curb in a parking lot." "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040304/lo_wjxt/2035791

[MrBenchley]

8. Guilty Verdict Handed Down To Pedestrian Who Killed Driver (NM)

"A jury has found an Albuquerque man guilty of second-degree murder, aggravated assault and unlawfully carrying a firearm.
The verdict came almost a year after Thomas Newsome Jr., 57, fatally shot a motorist near the University of New Mexico on April 8, 2003. The man authorities said Newsome gunned down -- Eric Hunter, 39 -- was shot four times with a .22-caliber pistol.
At the time, the attack was described as a case of pedestrian rage. Newsome, who was homeless at the time, testified he was walking in a crosswalk at the corner of Yale and Central when he was almost hit by a van driven by Hunter. Newsome followed Hunter into a store where he kicked him and then shot him. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040303/lo_koat/2032562

[MrBenchley]

10. Woman Shot In Rice Village Parking Garage (TX)

"A woman was shot when she found a man trying to steal her car in a Rice Village parking lot, officials told News2Houston.
Police said the woman was putting packages in the back seat of her car in the parking garage in the 2400 block of University at Morningside around 2 p.m. Wednesday when she saw a man in the driver's seat trying to steal the vehicle.
"The assailant turned around and told her to stay in the car. She didn't say anything. She just proceeded to get out of the car and get out of there. At that point in time, he opened fire on her," said Dee Anna Chappell, who helped the victim. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=320&ncid=320&e=3&u=/ibsys/20040304/lo_kprc/2034442

[slackmaster]

11. Tulsa homeowner shoots intruder (OK)

A homeowner defends his home with extreme force. It happened at a home located on East 7th Place around 1 AM Thursday.

Tulsa Police were checking on a call of gunfire in the neighborhood when they were called to the home. It seems the homeowner took action when an unknown man under the influence of alcohol or drugs threatened his family.

Tulsa Police Captain GB Poindexter: "He had a gun in his hand, pointed at the resident who opened the door. The resident's father came out and shot the bad guy one time in the right side."

The man was taken to a local hospital, his injuries are not life threatening. No one in the home was arrested....

The District Attorney has not yet said what charges may be filed against whom.

For rest of copyrighted article please see http://www.kotv.com/pages/viewpage.asp?id=58939

[beevul]

15. Now Slack...

Shame on you for posting a gun story without a victim to parade, or "proper" blood for the authoritarian control fetishists to lubricate thier stubbies with.:evilgrin:

[FeebMaster]

16. No Victim?!

What about that poor unknown man under the influence of alcohol or drugs?!!?!

[beevul]

17. Ok, you got me...

no "proper" victim.

[slackmaster]

19. Yes, I hope the poor guy gets treatment for his problems

He's lucky to be alive today.

[MrBenchley]

12. Man dies after being shot in West Philadelphia

"The victim, identified as Marc Callender of West Philadelphia, was fatally wounded shortly after 8:30 p.m. while on the 200 block of South Allison Street. He was taken to the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, where he was pronounced dead 20 minutes later. Police did not know the motive for the slaying and had no one in custody last night."

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/8099876.htm

[MrBenchley]

13. Father Charged in Son's Shooting Death (FL)

"MIAMI - A father was charged with negligence in the death of his 3-year-old son, who shot himself while playing with a gun he found in the man's car.
Prosecutors said Travis Jenkins Sr., 26, improperly stored the gun, which his son found near the driver's side floorboard of the car Jan. 19. Jenkins was outside the car talking to a friend when the boy picked up the gun and it fired.
Travis Jenkins Jr., who was wounded in the forehead, died three days later. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_re_us/toddler_shot_1

[MrBenchley]

18. Man Robbed At Gunpoint At Algiers ATM (LA)

"New Orleans police are asking for the public's help in locating and identifying two suspects wanted in connection with an armed robbery at a local drive-up ATM.
The robbery occurred Monday just before 7:30 p.m. at the Hibernia branch at 3800 Gen de Gaulle Drive, in Algiers.
According to investigators, a 29-year-old New Orleans man drove to the ATM and was approached by two men who produced handguns and forced him to withdraw cash. The man then drove away and called police. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=378&ncid=378&e=3&u=/ibsys/20040303/lo_wdsu/2035096

[MrBenchley]

21. Slain athlete was hanging with friends (IL)

"The afternoon passed with basketball, a trip to McDonald's, clothes shopping and three buddies, chatting about nothing in particular.
But as it came to an end and Zachary Webb and Calvin Ector got out of friend Gregory Johnson's car on a Bellwood street after saying goodbye Monday, the routine was shattered by a spray of bullets from a high-powered rifle, Zachary said Wednesday from his home.
First he ran. And when he went back after police had arrived he found his childhood friend, Calvin Ector, lying dead on his stomach. His eyes were closed and he looked as if he were sleeping.
Bellwood police are still checking some 20 shell casings found at the scene to determine if it was in fact an AK-47 or another kind of high-powered weapon. Casings from a 9mm semiautomatic pistol also were recovered."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-proviso04.html

[MrBenchley]

25. Gun firms' immunity sinks in U.S. Senate

More on the gun lobby's public debacle and defeat...

"WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans scuttled an election-year bill to immunize the gun industry from lawsuits after Democrats amended it Tuesday to extend an assault-weapons ban and require background checks on buyers at gun shows.
    The Senate killed the measure 90-8 after the National Rifle Association began pressuring senators to vote against the bill because Democrats had inserted the two gun-control provisions.
    During earlier debate, Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch said if gun-control advocates tried to retain the two gun-control measures he would counterstrike by offering as an amendment his bill to strip the District of Columbia of its 1976 law against handgun ownership.
The threatened repeal of the Washington gun law never materialized as Democrats won close votes on their amendments to change the Republican legislation, a strategy aimed at pressuring the GOP-dominated House to accept the restrictions to gain passage of the gun maker immunity bill.
    Underlining the importance of the day to Democrats, presidential contenders John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina broke away from the campaign trail to cast their first Senate votes of the year, joining the 52-47 majority on the assault weapons ban and the 53-46 majority on the gun show bill. A dozen Republican senators voted for one or both of the provisions. "

http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Mar/03032004/utah/144323.asp

Notice Orrin lying his stinking ass off, too....

[MrBenchley]

26. Frist draws GOP fire for handling of gun bill hahaha

Don't know why they're bitching...the Medicare thief had the nutcase brigade check their PDAs and obey Big Brother Wayne's voting instructions to the letter.

"Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) came under fire from a fellow Republican Tuesday who faulted him for his handling of a gun liability bill.
The bill was soundly defeated after a series of procedural moves by Democrats on the day their presidential standard-bearer returned from the campaign trail.
Kerry, who Tuesday chastised President Bush for purportedly bowing to the National Rifle Association, voted for the assault-weapons ban and against the final bill.
Daschle has been refusing to let the Senate send legislation to conference committees with the House to protest being excluded from conference committees last year. "

http://www.hillnews.com/news/030404/frist.aspx

By the way, keep reading past the gun stuff to see the GOP fighting hard to keep job outsourcing going strong.

[MrBenchley]

27. Man In Wheelchair Shot At Home (FL)

"A wheelchair-bound man was shot early Thursday at a hotel near St. Johns Bluff Road and Beach Boulevard.
Robert Harvey, 46, was shot several times at the In-Town Suites where he lives. A nearby neighbor called 911 at about 2:15 a.m.
"He just said he'd been shot," explained the neighbor. "He thought he had his door closed all the way -- he didn't. Someone busted through the door, came in looking for money and shot him. He said the gun accidentally went off. They went to hit him with the gun and the gun shot him."
Neighbors said the man was in a wheelchair because he'd been shot before. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ibsys/20040304/lo_wjxt/2036001&e=1

[CO Liberal]

28. Don't Tell Me - Let Me Guess

The first time he was shot, he had rung somebody's doorbell and ran away, right???

:-)

[MrBenchley]

29. No...that kid died, thanks to a CCW permit holder

The doorbell psycho...wonder what became of that case?

In Chimpy's NRAmerica you'll have to get shot more than once to make a headline...

[slackmaster]

42. At the shooter's own home

Where the CCW permit was irrelevant.

[MrBenchley]

30. 3 Men Arrested For Alleged Robbery, Chase

"Three men who robbed a Boca Raton steakhouse were behind bars Wednesday after leading authorities on a chase through several south county cities.
Witnesses said the three men, armed with handguns and rifles, stormed into Chuck's Steakhouse.
No one was hurt inside, and after the robbers took off in their getaway car, witnesses called 911. Police caught up with the alleged getaway vehicle. A chase ended on Congress Avenue in Boynton Beach, where surprised shoppers and business owners watched a brief standoff. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=308&ncid=308&e=6&u=/ibsys/20040303/lo_wpbf/2033974

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[slackmaster]

43. Ooh, sorry I missed that sub-thread

Must have been interesting.

[Wickerman]

44. not really

misplaced - this thread is for guns in the news items - the poster missed that in the suggested rules.

[MrSandman]

40. ...man killed by police pepper spray(FL)

Grand jury says simple steps could have saved man killed by police pepper spray

By Shannon O'Boye
Staff Writer
Posted March 4 2004

The grand jury that investigated the case of a man who died after being pepper sprayed by police and examined by paramedics issued a report Wednesday spelling out three simple ways the man's life might have been saved.

First, Fort Lauderdale police officers should have told the paramedics they pepper sprayed Raymond Sterling Jr., 21, after he ran from a traffic stop and struggled with them, rather than saying Sterling was "exhausted."


Second, the paramedics who arrived at the city jail should have used a basic tool they carry to measure the oxygen saturation in Sterling's blood. The paramedics spent six minutes with the dying man, taking his pulse and respiration and waving ammonia inhalant under his nose before leaving.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cpepper04mar04,0,6558564.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


So it is not a gun...but it doesn't deserve a thread...S

[Baclava]

45. Oops

Welcome to BenchLand. Where the self-appointed king and ruler can make no mistakes and the only truths are his.

[MrSandman]

46. It is the end of the day...

it isn't meant to be disruptive, doesn't have anything to with RKBA, but makes you say hmmmmmmmm. Just thought some might like seeing it. It is discussed over on SigForum.

[Liberal Classic]

47. Yes, post it in a new thread

It deserves it, since we should talk about something else once in a while.