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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:37 AM
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Chicago gun laws ineffective.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-gun-law-has-little-firepower/Content?oid=4066435

"Nor is the law functioning to screen out anyone prohibited from owning weapons—including people convicted of a violent crime, DUI, or gun offense—because only qualified applicants bother to go through the process.

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Police officials continue to say the law has helped keep cops safe.

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But other cops I've spoken to dismiss the notion that the law aids their day-to-day work. "Since the registration began, it has changed absolutely nothing in the way we police," says one veteran officer who doesn't want to be named for fear of a run-in with higher-ups. He says cops don't usually access the registration data—he has never seen it himself—but doubted it would make a huge difference if they did. "Police officers are trained to assume there's a gun there, whether it's a traffic stop or a domestic call."

What's more, Chicago's gun law is rarely used to lock up offenders because state and federal statues carry much heavier penalties. Just 79 people a year, on average, have been convicted of violating city gun ordinances since 1982, Dan Mihalopoulos and I reported last year in a story for the Chicago News Cooperative. "It's just an extra ticket you can hit them with," says the cop. "But the bad guys are not getting their guns legitimately and they're never going to."

Andrew Papachristos, a sociologist at the University of Massachusetts who studies gangs and gun crimes in Chicago, argues that gun laws should focus on the people perpetuating violence and the illegal ways they're getting weapons. "We're not talking about your father's guns—we're talking about guns used in crimes," he says. "It's the felons in possession of guns—that's really where the efforts should be."


Emphasis mine.

It's quite clear that Chicago's gun laws are simply an effort to try and stymy lawful firearm ownership, with little emphasis nor impact on criminals who use them.


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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:19 PM
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1. Guns laws only apply to those who wish to be legal and remain legal.
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:28 PM
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2. Tell us something we did not already know. n/t
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:29 PM
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3. registration is only a tool for future confiscation
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:36 PM
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4. grabbers know their ultimate answer after all others fail is confiscation.
until then they'll nibble at the second until it bite sized and easily eaten.
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:04 PM
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