(Stupid GOP Gun) Bill can expunge gun-crime record - convictions could be removed for a fee

[jpak]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/06/17/bill-can-expunge-gun-crime-record.html?sid=101

The new gun bill that Gov. John Kasich (edit: R-moran) is poised to sign includes something unusual in Ohio law: a "do-over" for past violators of firearms-in-vehicles rules.

Senate Bill 17 would allow concealed-carry permit-holders to take guns into bars, restaurants and stadiums that serve alcohol, unless those venues post prohibitions. It also includes an expungement process so that past violators of sections of the law related to possession of firearms in vehicles could have their criminal records wiped clean, or, in the words of the law, "permanently irretrievable."

The procedure is unusual as part of new legislation, most of which sets law going forward, not backward. Officials in Attorney General Mike DeWine's office said a reach-back provision is rare in Ohio law.

Sen. Larry Obhof Jr., a Republican (edit: R-moran) from Medina County, successfully lobbied to have the expungement provision inserted in the gun bill sponsored by Sen. Tim Schaffer, R-Lancaster.(edit: R-moran)

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protecting the lawbreakers is GOP/NRA Job One

yup

[Tippy]

1. If we don't get them stopped ALEC ....will push this legislation in all states

[X_Digger]

4. It's already the law in 43 states.

In 43 other states, you can concealed carry a firearm into a place that serves alcohol.

Now, different states have different criteria for what constitutes a 'bar', some go by state license type, some go by whether or not a person has to be 21 to enter, others go by what percentage of sales is for on-site consumption..

Hasn't been a problem in those other 43 states.

[Tippy]

11. I was refering to This part, sorry I was not clear.....

Sen. Larry Obhof Jr., a Republican (edit: R-moran) from Medina County, successfully lobbied to have the expungement provision inserted in the gun bill sponsored by Sen. Tim Schaffer, R-Lancaster.

I doubt 43 other states have this in their bill....but I could be wrong...

[X_Digger]

12. Funnily enough, various states do have 'rights restoration' procedures in place.

I don't know all the different states' details, but some states have an appeals process to have one's record expunged / expirgated / etc (the language varies widely.)

If our prison system actually worked more as a rehabilitation rather than job training for bigger and better criminals, I'd get behind more 'rights restoration' procedures.

[gejohnston]

2. are we talking techincal violations or real crimes?

What is your point? How do you feel if he were to sign the same bill about pot pipes and bongs?

[southerncrone]

3. Anything is OK w/GOP as long as money exchanges hands.

Especially if it ends up in their hands or to absolve them from wrong-doing.
EVERYTHING has a price to them. :puke:

[MadMaddie]

5. I am going to say it Kasick only has white gun violaters in mind

when it becomes apparant that this will include miniorities......well let's see what happens.

These Republicans are dangerous.

[gejohnston]

6. it works both ways

As well as low income whites, depending on the fee.

When Florida banned open carry in 1893, it was aimed at minorities. In 1941, the state supreme court overturned a conviction because the defendant was white, and that is really in the court record.

Watson v. Stone, 4 So.2d 700, 703 (Fla. 1941): "...the Act was passed for the purpose of disarming the negro laborers and to thereby reduce the number of unlawful homicides...and to give the white citizens in sparsely settled areas a better feeling of security. The statute was never intended to be applied to the white population...and there has never been, within my knowledge, any effort to enforce the provisions of the statute as to white people, because it has been generally conceded to be in contravention of the Constitution and non-enforceable if contested."

The logical reason liberals today defend these laws escapes me.

[spin]

8. That's why I support Florida's current "shall issue" concealed weapons permit program ...

It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor or what the color of your skin is. If you meet the requirements you can get a concealed weapons permit for a reasonable fee.

[rl6214]

14. Bullshit

until you can post something that proves this it is all just race baiting bullshit.

[gejohnston]

18. most likely class, since conservatives are all about order and class

distinctions.

[baldguy]

7. So, rich bastards can be as irresponsible as they want with their guns

- as long as they have the cash.

[gejohnston]

9. believe it or not, I may actually agree with you that this could

very well be the case.

[ileus]

10. Normally progressives want peoples rights restored...why not now?

[rl6214]

13. Typical jpak bullshit shtick

[DissedByBush]

15. In general we do need limits to prohibition

I know someone who had a wild youth, was convicted of a felony back in the 60s.

He cleaned himself up in the 70s, is a solid citizen, an old man who is extremely unlikely ever to commit a gun crime.

Yet he still can't own one because of the one run-in with the law he had in his life.

[Tejas]

16. NRA is not mentioned in your article, care to explain?

"protecting the lawbreakers is GOP/NRA Job One"


herpderp

[RamboLiberal]

17. BS posted again - actually a good provision

You can get an expungement because the law you got caught under changed. $50 seems fair to me to cover court time and be sure applicant is not wasting that time.

I'd expect whenever marijauna laws are loosened to allow people to appeal to the court for expungement!

I can understand how otherwise law abiding people got nailed under Ohio law.

[gejohnston]

19. Under Canadian federal law

A felon may own a gun after five years. As much as your side raves about how common sense their gun laws are...................