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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:27 PM
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OH AG DeWine takes aim at gun criminals
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 05:36 PM by RamboLiberal
The Ohio attorney general will form a Gun Crime Advisory Group "to deal with the huge problem of convicted felons who are using guns," he announced yesterday.

The decision was prompted in part by a series of stories in The Dispatch last month, "Target: Gun Violence," Attorney General Mike DeWine said.

"There are a relatively small number of individuals in the state who commit the vast majority of violent crimes," he said. "The key is to figure out how to identify them and get them off the streets."

No one has been named to the group, but DeWine said the emphasis will be on selecting "law-enforcement people who deal with the problem every day," particularly those in major urban areas, as well as "people who represent organizations like the NRA (National Rifle Association) and victims' advocates."

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/06/21/dewine-takes-aim-at-gun-criminals.html?sid=101

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When Michael T. Gravely shot and wounded two Columbus police officers who were battering down the door to a suspected drug house in 2008, it likely wasn't the first time he had illegally possessed a concealed weapon.

A gun charge against Gravely had been awaiting processing by Columbus police, Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien said. "You had a bottleneck with, I think, hundreds of gun cases that were going nowhere."

The discovery, police and prosecutors say, drove them to create the Columbus Police Division's gun unit, which seeks to make more gun cases stick in court. It also helped to further focus the city's law-enforcement efforts to reduce violence by going after gun offenders, both through aggressive policing on the streets and more-efficient prosecution in the courts.

"The old attitude oftentimes was, 'Let's get a gun off the street,'" said Assistant County Prosecutor Leigh A. Bayer, who now exclusively prosecutes gun cases as part of the unit. "The reality is, if you don't take the person who is committing these violent crimes off the street, he will have another gun by noon tomorrow.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/31/going-after-gunslingers.html?sid=101

Forty-four percent of the known suspects in last year's homicides in Columbus had been arrested previously on weapons charges.

This doesn't surprise police, who point to weak state laws that allow repeat gun offenders to serve prison sentences as short as six months. The bad guys then return to the streets, get more guns and commit more crimes, sometimes with fatal results, police say.

Those who make their living on the streets carry guns for protection. It's as simple as that, say prison inmates interviewed by The Dispatch.

"I had a lot of run-ins with different people as far as being in front of the muzzle of a gun," said Carl Gordon, 24, a North Side man who is serving two years on weapons charges and has served time for gun violations twice before.


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/30/shoot--go-to-jail--repeat-.html?sid=101
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 PM
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1. K&R they should go after gun criminals
not the legal gun owners.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:04 PM
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2. Future gun control should focus on violent criminals and those with severe mental issues ...
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 06:12 PM by spin
rather than honest citizens who own firearms.

In most states, the gun laws are reasonable and fairly effective if enforced.

Surprisingly while the sale of new firearms in our nation has skyrocketed the violent crime rate has fallen. This in no way means that more guns = less crime but does indicate that more guns DOES NOT cause more crime. Many factors are involved in the equation for why the violent crime rate has fallen and I personally believe that better and more proactive policing is the prime reason.

If more guns caused more crime surely we would have seen an increase in crime from the gun sales in 2009 by now.


Gun Owners Buy 14 Million Plus Guns In 2009 – More Than 21 of the Worlds Standing Armies
Wednesday, January 13th, 2010 at 11:43 AM



AmmoLand Gun News
Washington, DC --(AmmoLand.com)- Data released by the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) for the year reported 14,033,824 NICS Checks for the year of 2009, a 10 percent increase in gun purchases from the 12,709,023 reported in 2008.

So far that is roughly 14,000,000+ guns bought last year!
The total is probably more as many NICS background checks cover the purchase of more than one gun at a time by individuals.

To put it in perspective that is more guns than the combined active armies of the top 21 countries in the world. countries by number of troops
http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/general-off-topic/33596-14-million-guns-sold-usa-2009-a.html







Crimes Rates Fall Again
According to Preliminary Stat


Preliminary FBI figures reveal that the levels of both violent crime and property crime in the U.S. declined in 2010 from the previous year's data.

The 2010 Preliminary Annual Uniform Crime Report, just released today, shows a 5.5 percent decrease in the number of reported violent crimes when compared with data from 2009. It also shows a 2.8 percent decline in reported property crimes.

This latest report is based on information submitted to the FBI from 13,007 law enforcement agencies around the country. The crimes covered are murder, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/may/crimes_052311/crime_052311

edited because of fat fingers


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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:52 PM
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3. An exercise in futility. Guns and ammo in the hands of the public is the real problem.
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:59 PM
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7. Going after criminals is futile?
You have an interesting approach to law enforcement.

News flash: getting rid of guns would not get rid of crime. Somehow this fact continues to elude you.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:34 AM
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10. Access to guns and ammo enables crime. It empowers and encourages it.
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 01:18 PM
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11. Turns good people bad, huh?
Sounds like magical thinking to me.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:18 PM
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8. Yup, only cops should have guns.





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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:31 PM
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4. He's right, guns and ammo in the hands of criminals is the real problem.
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Blown330 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:50 PM
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5. Careful...
...such rampant common sense flies in the face of what our more intolerant members would believe. Who would have thought that going after CRIMINALS would have been logical? Certainly not shares, hanky, jpak, and their ilk.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:57 PM
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6. This sounds suspiciously like enforcing the laws we already have instead of
pushing for new restrictions. That will never work because, um, because, uhh, - wait, why don't we hear more about that strategy?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:49 PM
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9. This is a welcome change in DeWine's attitude...
since a few years ago he was singing the "fight crime by going after the law-abiding" mantra. Glad to see him shifting to a more focused approach.
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