Mayors invoke terrorism for gun control argument

[RamboLiberal]

A coalition of U.S. mayors launched a television ad Tuesday entreating Congress to shore up loopholes in U.S. gun control laws, which they argue allow "terrorists and other criminals to easily buy firearms and explosives."

Founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the group, called Mayors Against Illegal Guns, consists of more than 600 mayors from across the country and aims to "stop criminals from getting guns while also protecting the rights of citizens to freely own them," according to its website.

Part of that mission, the group says, involves closing regulatory loopholes that have been routinely exploited by criminals - and terrorists - to obtain firearms.

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Featuring a clip from an al Qaeda propaganda video, in which American-born terrorist Azzam al-Amriki touts the ease with which "You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check," Mayors Against Illegal Guns urges Americans to call their representatives in Congress to support stronger regulations.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20075133-503544.html#ixzz1QbrwLlt7

[TheWraith]

1. And the sad part is, some Democrats will support them, despite it being total bullshit

Like most invocations of "terrorism" as a reason to tighten controls and invade the rights of law abiding people. Anyone with even a milligram of sense or real-world knowledge could tell you that EVERYTHING that al-Amriki, a.k.a. Adam Gadahn, said in that video was a pile of horseshit. But Bloomberg and his fellow Republican cronies are going to latch onto it, KNOWING that it's a lie, in order to try and terrify some people who don't know better.

[jpak]

8. Some?

Most

yup

[hack89]

9. So you believe that you can buy fully automatic weapons at guns shows? Really? nt

[gejohnston]

10. Umm

You just said most of your fellow Dems are dim or dishonest. Don't know if you realize that.

Anyone with even a milligram of sense or real-world knowledge could tell you that EVERYTHING that al-Amriki, a.k.a. Adam Gadahn, said in that video was a pile of horseshit. But Bloomberg and his fellow Republican cronies are going to latch onto it, KNOWING that it's a lie, in order to try and terrify some people who don't know better.

You do know that fully automatic means machine gun don't you?

[TheWraith]

11. Nope. Some, who are growing fewer and fewer as time goes on.

The DLCers had their heyday of nanny-state support for gun control back in the 90s, and it proved to be a miserable failure, losing us dozens of congressional seats. More and more Democrats, particularly elected Dems, are learning to be on the right side of this, and to ignore the lies from the Republican mouthpieces like Bloomberg.

[gejohnston]

2. I have to ask the antis here,

I think all of you know that you can not get a machine gun with no questions asked. If your side needs to be that dishonest, does the ends justify the means? If they have to be that dishonest, do you ever question your cause? My view is that if you have to make crap up, the cause is not worth fighting.


http://www.stopillegalmayors.com/

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/intellectual-dishonesty-and-the-anti-gun-movement-t18514.html

[slackmaster]

3. LOL!

Last week's lies are still lies this week.

[tularetom]

4. I hate it when ANY politician uses the threat of "terrorism" to restrict our freedom

That includes Democratic mayors as well as republican congressmen.

[spin]

6. History shows that the rich and powerful often hate freedom ...

They can see little reason for the average citizen to have the same rights that they do. Many rich and powerful people feel they are far better educated and superior to the lower classes.

And of course, they especially fear armed lower classes.

Over the last few decades, the rich have been able to squash the middle class with the support of the politicians that they own. They must worry when they watch the news and see people rioting in the streets in many foreign nations.

In order to survive, our nation needs a strong middle class. The rich have to realize that they too will benefit if all Americans have the means to live a good life style.

[spin]

5. If Bloomburg actually wanted to protect the rights of citizens to freely own firearms ...

he would favor changing the laws in his own New York City.

The rich, the famous and the influential can own firearms in NYC. The average Joe Citizen faces a daunting obstacle course to own one.

The city this rich hypocrite runs is being sued over its restrictive gun laws.

Second Amendment Foundation Sues Bloomberg Over “Firearms Poll Tax”
Posted on June 23, 2011 by Robert Farago



“New York City’s $340 fee for a 3-year ‘Residence Premises’ handgun license far exceeds the fee charged by any other U.S. jurisdiction for comparable licensure.” According to the Second Amendment Foundation’s Summary Judgment Motion, the Big Apple’s license fee ”amounts to a prohibitive ‘poll tax’ just to exercise a Constitutional right.” In other words, like charging African Americans to vote, hitting-up NYC gun owners for a Benjamin-per-year to own a gun upon which they’ve already paid tax (and isn’t costing the City a dime) is unconstitutional gun control legislation by another name
http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/robert-farago/second-amendment-foundation-sues-bloomberg-over-gun-poll-tax/

But some people can own handguns and even carry them in New York City.

The Rich, the Famous, the Armed
By JO CRAVEN McGINTY
Published: February 18, 2011

MEN and women. Democrats and Republicans. Doctors, lawyers, merchants and moguls. A remarkable, if relatively small, cross-section of New Yorkers legally own handguns, according to public records obtained by The New York Times.

Among the more than 37,000 people licensed to have a handgun in the city are dozens of boldface names and public figures: prominent business leaders, elected officials, celebrities, journalists, judges and lawyers.

Some expressed pride in their gun ownership, like the renowned divorce lawyer Raoul Felder, who readily posed with his .38-caliber Smith & Wesson. Others, including David Breitbart, Yetta Kurland and Walter Mack, all well-known lawyers, were irked to learn they would be included in an article based on the public records. And there were a few conflicted souls, like Alexis Stewart, co-host of “Whatever With Alexis and Jennifer” on SiriusXM radio and the Hallmark Channel.

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Getting a handgun legally in New York is a two-step process. First, applicants must obtain a license, which costs $340, takes about 12 weeks to process, is good for three years and requires a background check by the New York Police Department. In addition, fingerprinting costs about $100.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/nyregion/20guns.html

Lifestyles of the rich and packin': High-profile celebrities seeking gun permits on the rise
Monday, September 27th 2010, 4:00 AM


Never fear J.Lo - your husband Marc Anthony is one of dozens of celebrities authorized to carry a concealed weapon in New York City.
/27/2010-09-27_celebrities_seeking_pistol_permits_on_the_rise_in_the_city_lifestyles_of_rich_n_.html#ixzz1Qc3cgP7b

J.Lo and her 2-year-old twins can rest easy at night: Daddy is packing heat.

Singer Marc Anthony is one of dozens of celebs, millionaires and high-profile athletes authorized to carry a concealed weapon in the city, records show.

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Other big names licensed to carry a gun include actor Robert De Niro, shock jock Howard Stern and supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis. Billionaire Donald Trump and his son, Donald Jr.; celebrity lawyer David Breitbart, and artificial-heart inventor Robert Jarvik can also carry steel, police records reveal.

Mets third-baseman David Wright has a permit to keep a gun in his city penthouse. Martha Stewart's daughter, radio host Alexis Stewart, also has a permit.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/09/27/2010-09-27_celebrities_seeking_pistol_permits_on_the_rise_in_the_city_lifestyles_of_rich_n_.html#ixzz1Qc3tdjDz

[PoliticAverse]

7. Apparently someone doesn't know what a "fully automatic assault rifle" is.

Cause if they did they'd know that that video is BS.

[krispos42]

12. Yeah, let's support an agenda built on propaganda!

It's worked out so well for whole nations in the past!