Smoking gun?

[Howzit]

C-SPAN video boasting about Fast and Furious: http://youtu.be/-PNhYk9NuNc

More detail at: http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2...ch-090402.html

[east texas lib]

1. "90% of the guns used by the Mexican cartels originated in the USA!"

"We know this because we paid for and supplied them."

Sincerely, Your Benevolent Best Buds at Justice and BATF

[TheWraith]

2. Irony is, one way or another we ARE responsible for 90% of their guns.

Either directly, government-approved sales to the Mexican military which are then stolen or sold. Or indirectly, with our ongoing drug war creating a fantastically profitable black market, the proceeds of which finance their importing of massive amounts of weapons from China and elsewhere. It's just not all to blame on Ray's Shooting Supply in Austin the way some people would like to believe.

You want to help Mexico's violence problem, well, shut down the drug war.

[east texas lib]

3. The point I was making is in the text of this bill...

OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS
STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTANCE

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $2,000,000,000, for the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant program as authorized by subpart 1 of part E of title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Acts of 1968 (‘1968 Act’), (except that section 1001(c), and the special rules for Puerto Rico under section 505(g), of the 1968 Act, shall not apply for purposes of this Act).
For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $225,000,000, for competitive grants to improve the functioning of the criminal justice system, to assist victims of crime (other than compensation), and youth mentoring grants.

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $225,000,000, for assistance to Indian tribes, notwithstanding Public Law 108-199, division B, title I, section 112(a)(1) (118 Stat. 62), which shall be available for grants under section 20109 of subtitle A of title II of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (Public Law 103-322)
(2) $25,000,000 shall be available for the Tribal Courts Initiative; and
(3) $25,000,000 shall be available for tribal alcohol and substance abuse drug reduction assistance grants.
For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $100,000,000, to be distributed by the Office for Victims of Crime in accordance with section 1402(d)(4) of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (Public Law 98-473).

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $125,000,000, for assistance to law enforcement in rural States and rural areas, to prevent and combat crime, especially drug-related crime.
For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $50,000,000, for Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) initiatives.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1/text?version=enr&nid=t0:enr:232t

If this doesn't qualify as a manufactured gun crisis with the "solution" being more gun control, than what does?
$10,000,000 buys a lot armament to "let" the cartels end up with.

[X_Digger]

4. *sigh* F&F != Gun Runner

Project Gun Runner is an umbrella project, with many sub-projects. One of them was the F&F one, but knowledge of the umbrella project proves nothing in regards to F&F..

Don't get me wrong, there may be a smoking gun, but it does us no good to jump up and down on this, because honey, it ain't it.

[Howzit]

5. Complete link to DOJ info in OP:

http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090402.html

[Hoopla Phil]

6. I don't know if it is a "smoking gun" but it most definitely

calls for further investigation.