Sheboygan DA blasts concealed-carry law -Gun rule raises questions of owner privacy, officer safety

[jpak]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/125539018.html

Less than a week after Gov. Scott Walker (edit - uber-moran) signed Wisconsin's first-ever concealed-carry bill into law, some law enforcement officials are raising concerns that the law would put police officers' safety at risk.

Others, however, say changing the law could lead officers to abuse their privileges and invade gun holders' privacy.

Under the law, expected to take effect Nov. 1, the Department of Justice would keep a database of people who hold concealed-carry permits. Officers would be authorized to check the database to verify that a permit is valid and investigate whether someone lied in applying for a permit.

But police would not be allowed to check the database for routine assignments - for instance traffic stops, domestic disturbances and execution of search warrants - where such information could be a helpful tool in assessing the level of potential danger to an officer.

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[OneTenthofOnePercent]

1. Legal concealed carry has not proved to be a significant safty issue for police in 48 other states

This story is just fear mongering...
a little whine coming from the sour grapes of their recent defeat.

lol, keep beating that dead horse

[GreenStormCloud]

2. He can howl all he wants, he has to obey the new law. N/T

[jeepnstein]

3. "Routine"

In "routine" police work one assumes everyone is armed. You don't let your guard down. The guy who's packing but for whatever reason can't be bothered to get a license, he's what you really have to watch out for. Checking the list would just give a false sense of security or be a waste of valuable time.

[DonP]

4. Is there a "tough shit" icon?

We've seen this in every state that passed CCW.

Some sore loser cops and DAs, usually ones that used gun control as a campaign issue for donations, claim it makes their job more dangerous, harder, impossible etc.

Then a year or two later, the more honest among them, come out and admit that it really never turned into the problem they thought it would.

As stated here multiple times by LEOs, every traffic stop and search arrant served assumes an armed and possibly hostile subject.

[lawodevolution]

5. This is the USA, the people want CCW permits so the DA has to just accept it

The police should work for the safety of the people, the people should not lose rights for the safety of the police.

[SteveM]

6. Not much here, move along... nt

[Atypical Liberal]

7. "potential danger to an officer"

"But police would not be allowed to check the database for routine assignments - for instance traffic stops, domestic disturbances and execution of search warrants - where such information could be a helpful tool in assessing the level of potential danger to an officer."

What a crock of shit. First of all, if a police officer did know that the person they just pulled over was a CCW permit holder, if anything, they should breathe a sigh of relief! CCW permit holders have been shown to be many times, sometimes hundreds of times less likely to be involved in crime than non-CCW permit holders. If you have to interact with someone and they are a CCW permit holder, you are less likely to have problems than someone who doesn't have one.

That said, anyone who thinks the government isn't using such databases of information is kidding themselves.

[MicaelS]

8. "The debate's over," he said.

"Everybody just exhale. Forty-eight other states have this. They haven't experienced all this hysteria and fear-mongering, and life went on in those states. We'll be fine."

What do we hear all the time from DA and cops? "I don't make the law, I just enforce it?" Mr. DeCecco should enforce the fucking law as is or resign from office. We had some uppity DA's here in Texas concerning CCW, and the Legislature had to slap them down, and make them understand that the Legislature makes the laws and not the fucking DA.s

[spin]

10. Some DAs are petty tyrants. They love power.

[spin]

9. The Florida cops that I know don't view people with carry permits as a threat ...

I've never met one officer who said he had a problem with legal concealed carry or ever had a bad experience with a person who had a carry permit.
They do view criminals as a threat. Violent criminals do not have carry permits.