OKC Homeowner Shoots 2, Possibly 3 Home Invaders - Castle Law Win!

[GreenStormCloud]

http://www.news9.com/story/15079340/okc-homeowner-shoots-2-possibly-3-home-invaders

OKLAHOMA CITY -- A homeowner in northwest Oklahoma City shot at least two suspected home invaders late Wednesday night.

The incident began at 8:30 p.m. when the homeowner returned to his house in the 200 block of N.W. 87th Street to investigate a burglary alarm. When he arrived, he found three people burglarizing his house. The suspects ran away.

The homeowner says later that night around 10:30 p.m., the suspects returned. The homeowner pulled out his gun and started shooting.

At least two of the suspects were hit. One suspect collapsed near the house and another suspect was found two blocks away. The homeowner told police he may have hit the third suspect, as well. That person has not been caught.

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The homeowner will not be charged. Castle Law worked.

[Hoopla Phil]

1. Just as Castle Law intended.

[Lord_Proprietor]

4. Castle Law works

Pro gun organizations advertise that fewer invasions happen where thieves know most citizens
keep weapons in their homes for protection!

[ileus]

2. Guns and ammo in the hands of citizens makes them impolite to guests.

uninvited guests that is...

[Upton]

3. A couple less bad guys to worry about..

at least for awhile. This must be disconcerting news to the antis, who not only don't believe in the right of self defense, but more often than not seem more concerned with the welfare of the criminals than with their victims..

[SteveM]

5. HyperPunks...

My goodness, the suspected home invaders run off; two hours later they come back again, knowing they have been detected. 'Dem punk' WANTED a confrontation. And they got it.

[slackmaster]

6. I hate to jump to conclusions before all the evidence is in

But I think those invaders might have been stupid.

[SteveM]

7. Yes, that is in the realm of possibilities. nt

[ileus]

8. Mean ole "toater" taking advantage of those suffering from ableism

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. I must respectfully disagree- they were suffering from Dunning-Kruger Syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Sarah Palin is the most glaring example.

Fans of the cartoon "King of The Hill" will recall the recurring character Jimmy, who was also a case of Dunning-Kruger Effect.

We have a few members with D-K Syndrome. I try to be gentle with them, but they tend to get rather obnoxious...

[Common Sense Party]

12. Interesting that this seems to be a particularly American malady:

"it is clear from Dunning's and others' work that many Americans, at least sometimes and under some conditions, have a tendency to inflate their worth."

[friendly_iconoclast]

22. Dunning and Kruger studied *only* Americans. All societies have their quirks.

I doubt, for example, that you'll find many Americans that believe in muti, or that someone stole their genitalia....

[GreenStormCloud]

23. The way it is explained it sounds like a human quirk to me. N/T

[Euromutt]

13. It's not an unreasonable surmise

A great many petty criminals are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, to put it mildly. If they were, they'd either be in a lower-risk occupation, or pulling off bigger scores than knocking over convenience stores or private residences.

[MicaelS]

9. I'm sure certain Prohibtionists here will try to spin this

And blame the gun owner for all of it.

[just55650]

so true

[just55650]

14. so true

[lawodevolution]

11. This is how an attack should be handled. When a person is victimized and the legal

system fails to provide justice people will often curse the system, but the true failure was the victim not doing what was necessary to defend him/herself and passing the responsibility of justice onto others.

[Peter1x9]

15. If the gun control people had their way,

this homeowner would now either be dead or be injured and missing lots of property. I'm tired of the silly gun control part of the Democratic party. Criminals aren't going to obey gun control laws. They are happy when everyone else obeys gun control laws though.

[jpak]

16. Legalized mass murder - attempted burglary is not a capital crime

yup

[aikoaiko]

17. This is why you fail. Please keep posting in order to help gun rights supporters

It's posts yours that show you to worry more about the injury or death of those committing forcible felonyies upon a homeowner than the homeowner and family.

For all your talk about NRA thuggery, we see the real life thugs you side with.

[jpak]

19. Castle Laws allow gun toters to be judge, jury and executioners

for alleged crimes that have no death penalty in death penalty states

and get away with it

kill kill kill

yup

[ManiacJoe]

20. One really has to wonder

how you have stayed in this forum this long while still not understanding what the Castle laws do and do not allow.
:shrug:

[east texas lib]

25. There, there, jpak...you could always adopt a few thugs of your very own...

Perhaps open a foster home for wayward souls such as they. In that warm, loving, nurturing environment you could mend their tortured souls, fill them with self esteem, empathy, empowerment, sensitivity, warm fuzzies and gold stars for learning proper wine selection for any occasion and meal, as well as doing all your landscaping and filling your auto with gas. You could truly make a difference in a young thug's life! It's not too late. Act now, before they all get whacked doing home invasions!:P

[ileus]

18. So uh......why do you think they come back knowing someone was home???

Did they plan on doing the laundry and cleaning the bathroom?

[spin]

21. If someone breaks into my home while I am not there I have insurance ...

Obviously I will be upset but I can replace most of the items I own except those that I value because they were given to me by people I loved but no longer are alive.

If a person breaks into my home while I am present and when my family is there, the situation is entirely different.

It's fairly easy to determine if someone is home. If someone enters an occupied home, they are either intending to do serious harm to the occupants or they love the thrill of a "hot prowl."

Hot prowl burglary

A hot prowl burglary is a sub-type of burglary in which the offender enters a building or residence while occupants are inside the location. The overarching intent of a hot prowl burglary can be theft, robbery, sexual assault, murder, or another crime. Hot prowl burglaries are considered especially dangerous by law enforcement because of the potential for a violent altercation to erupt between the occupant and the offender. Police agencies throughout the United States encourage residents to keep their doors and windows locked at all times to prevent the possibility of a hot prowl burglary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_prowl_burglary

If I am awakened and alerted to the situation, I have a family to be concerned about. If I encounter an intruder who should not be in my house, I face the possibility that if he gets past me he may hurt or kill my family members. Any hesitation on my part may lead to the death or injury of those I love.

I have absolutely no desire to kill or injure some fool or teenage kid who has lacked the commonsense to avoid occupier homes and is merely looking to grab something of value and leave. The unfortunate fact is that I can't know his intentions.

If I confront such an intruder, I intend to draw down on him and if he follows my instructions to the letter, I will not shoot.

Often when I read your posts I wonder if you support the criminal's right to rape and pillage more than the right of an honest person to use a firearm for legitimate self defense.

How can you seriously say:

"Legalized mass murder - attempted burglary is not a capital crime."

If I shot one or a few home invaders and they died, it would be in no way a mass murder. It would be legitimate self defense in my state which has a "Stand Your Ground" law.

Would you prefer that I let them kill me and then kill my daughter, her husband and my grandchildren? Would you suggest I run out of my house and leave my family subjected to their will?

What would you do if you confronted an invader in your home?

[PavePusher]

24. Assuming that is only what they had in mind....

what limits would you place on defense of property?

Do I have to watch them walk out the door with my stuff? Can I take pictures of them? Yell at them? try to step in their way/obstruct them? attack them with fists and feet? Sticks? Knives?

Where. Is. The. Line?

[gravity556]

28. "Assuming that is only what they had in mind...."

Well, after reading several other castle doctrine threads, I can say that the pro-criminal safety folks (not gonna name names, but you know who I mean. yup) expect you to cower in a corner and hope that the criminal doesn't decide to get rid of any witnesses and hope that they'll be happy just slapping everyone around a bit and taking your stuff. And who can blame them? Times are tough-they need your TV and jewelry more than you do. After all, it's not like they can get a job and work for the things they want. You should probably help them carry anything heavy though-wouldn't want to get sued because some poor disadvantaged youth hurt himself while he was redistributing your wealth.

Fortunately, here in the real world, 95% of people aren't pro-criminal safety. Kick in my door, for instance, and chances are good that you'll find yourself staring down the barrel of a gun-fail to stop what you are doing and follow instructions (get on your face, hands behind your back and don't even fucking breathe) and chances are good that you'll suffer an immediate weight gain, shortness of breath and circulatory problems. ;)

[oneshooter]

26. So he should leave and allow the goblins free rein in his home? n/t

[Union Scribe]

27. Did I just see a shadow pass over that shark tank?

Oh, it was jpak, jumping it and becoming a caricature of his own parody.