Guns for Me but not for Thee?

[RSillsbee]

From the Richmopnd Times Dispatch

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2010/jan/02/74-year-old-nc-state-senator-shoots-wounds-intrude-ar-779550/

Antigun Senator Shoots Intruder

Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City, N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.

The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen and Brunswick counties..

(snip)

The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.

[slackmaster]

1. Lovers' quarrel that got violent?

Is there anything to the rumors about Senator Soles?

[ileus]

2. from 2010...but it's typical anti hypocrisy.

[RSillsbee]

8. I posted this because it so typifies the attitude

of many of our anti gun memebers who come in here and damn us all to Hell as "toters" then let it slip that they own guns ( but it's not OK for us to)

[dsc]

3. this is an old story

and frankly being anti gun is the least of his hypocritical problems. Incidently I don't see any evidence in that article that he was anti gun. It was a story in NC for his being anti gay but gay himself.

[spin]

4. According to snopes.com,, Soles had high ratings from the NRA ...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/soles.asp

[tularetom]

5. This was litigated on DU some months ago

The verdict was Mr Soles was indeed a hypocritical douchebag.

If I remember correctly his hypocrisy went beyond his opinions on gun ownership.

[petronius]

7. "Litigated on DU" - that's a great way to put it (for a lot of topics)

:rofl:

[safeinOhio]

9. NRA-PVF

scores for the senator

1998 B
2000 B
2002 B+
2004 B+
2004 A
2006 A
2008 A



BUT thanks for posting a right wing NAGA email that makes no sense. NRA give the most anti-gun senator an A ratting?

[Name removed]

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[east texas lib]

10. It's the elitist way...

They have money, power and lives with bright futures worth defending. Just ask them!

[AzWorker]

12. Kennedy Bodyguard Arrested For Possessing Machine Guns

Always a classic....


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1986-01-15/news/0190180113_1_submachine-guns-bodyguard-uzi

Kennedy Bodyguard Arrested For Possessing Machine Guns

January 15, 1986|By United Press International

Sen. Edward Kennedy's private bodyguard, hired for a trip to South America, was arrested last week when he arrived at the Capitol with two submachine guns and ammunition, officials said Tuesday.

The bodyguard was identified as Charles Stein, 47, a former police officer in San Fernando, Calif., who has worked for the Massachusetts Democrat in the past, providing security on overseas trips. He was released on his own recognizance after appearing in court.


(snip) more at link


Lt. Jeffrey Zanotti of the Capitol Police said Stein identified himself as Kennedy's bodyguard, told a guard he had weapons in his briefcase and asked where he could check them.

Police, however, confiscated the two submachine guns -- an Italian Beretta and an Israeli Uzi -- and 146 rounds of ammunition. They also detained Stein, charging him with possession of weapons without a license.

Uzi and Beretta submachine guns fire 9mm pistol ammunition. They have metal stocks that shorten the weapons to about 17 inches when folded, making them easy to conceal.

The Uzi, used by the U.S. Secret Service, was developed by the Israeli army.

The Washington Post quoted a source who said of the weapons, ''We're talking a small army.''

But Kennedy spokesman Robert Mann said, ''Chuck is a highly respected security person . . . not a Rambo type.''

[east texas lib]

17. Yeppers...

That's one of the better examples. Rosie O'Donnell (gun hating armed bodyguard employer), Jane Fonda (gun hater by day gun toter by night "Those laws are for other people"). Examples of 2A hypocrisy abound!

[Hoyt]

11. Another example of misreading situation. "Misinterpreting" is dangerous with gun in one's pants.

So the guy turns out to be an NRA favorite, but gunners can't even interpret things when sitting in the comfort of their own home. That's dangerous on the streets with a gun or two at hand.

[Lurks Often]

13. You mean like Ted Kennedy's bodyguard

who had not one, but two sub machine guns with him?

[Hoyt]

14. And what does Ted Kennedy have to do with this. You must have gotten that from right wing site.

[AzWorker]

15. "And what does Ted Kennedy have to do with this. You must have gotten that from right wing site.."

Yep, the Orlando Sentinal, LA times has it in the archives as well....

And the below seems to be fitting for this reply....

"The rules of the Inner Party are held together by adherence to a common doctrine. In a Party member not even the smallest deviation of opinion on the most unimportant subject can be tolerated. But it is also necessary to remember that events happened in the desired manner. And if it is necessary to rearrange one's memories or to tamper with written records, then it is necessary to forget that one has done so. The trick of doing this can be learned like any other mental technique. It is learned by the majority of Party members, and certainly by all who are intelligent as well as orthodox. In Oldspeak it is called, quite frankly, "reality control." In Newspeak, it is called doublethink, though doublethink comprises much else as well."

[Lurks Often]

16. It was in post 12

or did you fail to read it?

[Hoyt]

18. Missed it first time. Clearly right wing gun BS on reading.

[friendly_iconoclast]

19. Just like all those reports of the ATF deliberately allowing straw buyers to purchase guns?

I distinctly remember somebody named after a movie star earnestly assuring us on multiple occasions that all that talk about

something called "Operation Fast And Furious" was GOP/NRA disinformation.


Those right-wingers are pretty sneaky. Not only are they planting items in the LA Times, the BBC News website, the Washington

Post, and ABC News about OF&F- they've obviously hacked the archives of the Orlando Sentinel and the LA Times to insert

that obviously unpossible story about Ted Kennedys' bodyguard.


Hoyt, as someone who is concerned about guns in society, it's clearly your duty to report this hacking to the proper authorities,

i.e. the FBI.


You'll be giving them a call directly, won't you? Be sure and tell us how it turns out....

[gejohnston]

20. US Secret Service

esp. if it involves identity theft, fraud, or any financial crime.

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. I thought the FBI handled computer crime. Our man should call both, just in case.

Have to stop those guns from polluting our precious bodily fluids, no?

[gejohnston]

22. USSS does if it involves identity theft or financial crime

For example, credit card skimming is a high tech counterfeiting, etc.

http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

[Lurks Often]

23. So your response to Ted Kennedy's bodyguard

carrying TWO sub machine guns, something that was reported in numerous newspapers is to say
"Clearly right wing gun BS on reading".

And you wonder why none of us take you seriously. You are never able to dispute anything with facts, you merely trot out the same tired, pathetic talking points put forth by VPC and the Brady crowd and ignore anything that might conflict with your world view.







Edited for use of wrong pronoun

[PavePusher]

24. I want to see him write another screed for Huff'n'Puff.

Maybe it wouldn't be eviscerated as badly as his previous one.

[TPaine7]

25. Hoyt,

How do you expect anyone who reads this--anyone with a slightly open mind--to retain any respect for your intellect or integrity?

People like you, with your automatic dismissal of unfavorable news reports from reputable sources, are very good for the gun rights cause.

I would like to personally express my gratitude; we couldn't ask for better adversaries.

Thank you for your opposition.

[oneshooter]

26. I beg your Pardon Sir! I would have the utmost respect for Hoyt's

intellect and integrity.










































That is Sir, if I could find it.