'Bullet Tax' Proposed By Mayoral Candidate

[guardian]

Another loser, moronic, ineffective idea that will result in the opposite of the intended effect. The only result will be that law abiding citizens won't be able to practice and stay proficient. Criminals on the other hand, rarely if ever practice at a firing range. Does this idiot candidate think an extra $5 will stop criminals from robbing a bank or 7-11, or killing a rival gang member?


http://www.wbaltv.com/r/28595846/detail.html
A mayoral candidate's plan to reduce violence in Baltimore includes a "bullet tax" that he said will increase the cost of committing a crime.

[slackmaster]

1. Good plan if you want to kill jobs. No doubt the Baltimore police would be exempt from the tax.

Otherwise they'd buy their ammunition outside of the city, or online, like everyone else would.

Adding $50 to the price of a box of .22 ammunition would be bad for retail business.

In Before Someone Posts Lame Chris Rock Video.

[PavePusher]

3. Oops, wrong place. n/t

[sakabatou]

2. What we need is bullet control!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX-nFmL0II

[slackmaster]

5. Read and learn

http://www.midwayusa.com/reloading

[sakabatou]

8. And what am I supposed to read?

[slackmaster]

10. I want you to become aware that people make their own ammunition

So that taxing it would result in more people loading their own rather than paying a ridiculous tax.

[sakabatou]

11. Yes, I know people do make their own ammo

-_-

[slackmaster]

12. And you may be aware that homemade ammunition is more likely to malfunction than factory ammunition

Including case failures and overloaded rounds that can cause destructive explosions, sometimes resulting in injuries and even deaths.

So, please explain why do you want more people to get injured and killed. Why are you against gun safety?

[sakabatou]

13. I smell something fishy... a red herring anyone?

[slackmaster]

15. I'm just attempting to enumerate a predictable unintended consequence of your silly idea

Your canoe. Paddle it.

[sakabatou]

17. And I was just trying to make a joke

Yeesh. No wonder some people call this the "Gungeon."

[slackmaster]

18. Chris Rock has considerable comedic talent

You don't.

[sakabatou]

27. Oh no, whatever shall I do?

:eyes:

Talk to me like an actual adult instead of someone who can't take a joke. Good bye.

[AtheistCrusader]

33. Um, he QUOTED Chris Rock and linked the video.

You might want to calm down.

[slackmaster]

36. I'm calmer than you

[eqfan592]

37. Lol, now THAT'S funny. :) nt

[AtheistCrusader]

38. Yet you are the one responding to an obvious joke with serious hurf blurfery.

[slackmaster]

39. Lame attempts at humor call for SERIOUS hurf blurfery!

This is serious shit here, AC!

:D

[AtheistCrusader]

42. When he protested that he wasn't being serious

maybe you could have acknowledged that you weren't being serious either.

[friendly_iconoclast]

16. More like a proposal that is both unworkable and unconstitutional..

See my post below.

[SteveM]

7. No, we need re-run control. nt

[sakabatou]

9. So we need to control this guy?

:P

[SteveM]

44. Impossible! My argument is defeated. I must watch again and again...nt

[PavePusher]

4. Candidate is an ignorant, anti-Constitutional moran.

yup

[SteveM]

6. Not only ineffective, but old. Such loud noises. nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

14. He apparently thinks crooks are too stupid to drive over the city line to buy ammo.

Besides, Minneapolis Star v. Minnesota Department of Revenue rendered this sort of thing illegal.

This guy is a fool.

[damntexdem]

19. Yeah, the proposed tax is ridiculously low.

Should be around $10 per bullet.

[friendly_iconoclast]

22. Absolutely, we need to drive those evil gun shops out to the suburbs....

where Baltimoreans will never even think of setting foot in order to avoid some outrageous tax.


Seriously, do you lot ever stop and think about the likely consequences of what you propose?

[ileus]

29. today the city....county... state... country.

[Euromutt]

41. Because nobody would would ever think of smuggling in contraband items, right?

That's why it's impossible to buy cocaine and heroin in Baltimore. Geez, that stuff has to come from Columbia, Afghanistan, Burma or Mexico. It's way to difficult for some enterprising criminal to even think about shipping that stuff all the way from its country of origin, smuggling it into the United States, and selling it to illegal distributors. So they'd certainly never think of buying small arms ammunition overseas and bringing that into the United States.

Right? Right?

[spin]

23. If it was that high, ammo would be smuggled into the inner city and sold on the street ...

A box of 50 Remington .38 Special +P rounds which can be bought for roughly $20 outside the city would sell inside the city for $520.

[slackmaster]

25. That would be roughly $70, spin

A brick of .22 ammo that normally costs about $20 would be $520.

[spin]

28. I was replying to damntexdem who in post #19 said ....

"Yeah, the proposed tax is ridiculously low. Should be around $10 per bullet."

His idea would cause a brick of .22 caliber ammo to cost $5020 inside the city.

[eqfan592]

30. Sounds like a great way to fund drug gangs even more than they are already.

Just another thing for them to trade in at a ridiculous profit. Seriously, do you ever stop to think how your ideas would actually make the problem much worse and not even remotely better?

[Hangingon]

31. Lots of tv coverage of drug busts down here.

Even busts of smaller dealers feature lots of cash. These guys will and can pay. It is simply an increased cos of doing business.

[PavePusher]

47. It only takes a single bullet to start a revolution.

And that would be a price worth paying.

[ileus]

20. 5 bucks is a small price to pay to kill, rob and rape...

[Remmah2]

21. Can the criminals write it off their income tax as a business expense?

Do criminals pay income tax?

[friendly_iconoclast]

24. They can write off $.41 per mile for driving to Towson or Cecil County to buy ammo.

However, they will have to itemize and submit any receipts...

[ileus]

26. got the email last week it's now .55/mile

[beevul]

32. Hypothetical question about premption laws.

What if the state already places a tax on ammunition?

Do state premption laws also cover taxes?

[GreenStormCloud]

34. Most criminals never fire their gun during the robbery.

They use the gun to intimidate. So the same bullets can be loaded into it in January, used in multiple robberies, and still be in the gun in December. So the bullet tax would have little effect on them. Its only effect would be on the law-abiding who would want to practice. They would have to drive out of city.

[Ragnarok]

35. Wow! Crazy prices. Stupid idea to reduce crime, but...

...at this rate I can give away my half my stash for free, and just charge half the retail taxes and probably retire somewhere nice!

1/2 x ($1 x many, many, many thousands) = LOL :rofl: :rofl:



Not my photo, but you get the idea. ;)

[Euromutt]

40. "It's a 'make it difficult for you to buy bullets in the city' tool."

Just like imposing a $1 tax on every baggie of marijuana and vial of crack made it difficult to buy drugs in the city, right, Mr. Rolley? 'Cause there's positively no way some enterprising spark might think of smuggling in ammunition from outside the city and distributing and retailing it via the same networks that already exist for the drugs trade and, presumably, the black market for firearms themselves.

This guy could stand to watch The Wire a couple of times until he starts to understand the dynamics of crime.

[DissedByBush]

43. We need some kind of constitutional punishment

If you are a legislator or executive, and you vote for or propose a law that gets struck down as unconstitutional, that's one strike.

I say six strikes and you are forever forbidden from holding any government position again.

[eqfan592]

45. Now THAT is a damned AWESOME idea! nt

[PavePusher]

46. Six? Insanity.

Three, MAX. If they won't learn to read by then, flush'em.