Man breaks into police officer's home, scared away by teen w/ gun

[Common Sense Party]

http://www.whas11.com/news/crimetracker/Potential-robber-scared-away-by-17-year-old-with-a-shotgun-126727778.html

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Police say he threw a landscaping rock into the glass of a side door. The officer’s three children were home at the time of the break-in. A 17-year-old was armed with a shot gun when the burglar entered the house.

Sources say when Doyle was arrested he told officers he was addicted to Opana, a prescription painkiller. That is the new drug of choice on the streets.

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Didn't the children have a "duty to retreat"?

Why wasn't that cop's shotgun secured where the 17-year-old child couldn't get to it?

[slackmaster]

1. He chose his target poorly

Poor dumb SOB.

[Blown330]

2. Darn those pesky castle laws...

...didn't the 17 year old know he was supposed to help the intruder by giving him cash, easily pawned valuables, and maybe a pamphlet on drug addiction treatment?

[Common Sense Party]

3. That would be the neighborly thing to do. n/t

[bowens43]

4. 10 Year old boy dies of gunshot wound.

Deputies said around 1:13 a.m. Thursday, dispatchers received a 911 call reporting that a child had been shot at 995 Peters Road. Deputies and medics from Union City, Ohio, responded.
The child was pronounced dead at the scene. Darke County Coroner Dr. Kathman and his investigator were notified and responded to the scene.
According to deputies, the boy suffered a gunshot wound to the head. They also said that there were multiple weapons inside the house, and that gun used in the shooting may have been a pistol.

http://www.whiotv.com/news/28763577/detail.html

[Common Sense Party]

7. That's sad.

How does that tragedy relate to the incident in this thread? Do you have any commentary at all about this incident?

Perhaps you could start a new thread with your Ohio tragedy.

[DWC]

5. 17 year old "child" ??????

I hope you had your sarcasm tag turned on when you wrote that.

Kudos to the young man for a positive, armed defense without a shot being fired which further demonstrates his solid maturity and good judgment.

Kudos to his parents for raising him right.

Semper Fi,

[Common Sense Party]

6. He's just a child!!!

And yes, I thought the sarcasm was evident, but I guess I may have erred.

[Hoopla Phil]

10. You do know that the Brady Bunch considers a "child" don't you?

IIRC it's up to 24 years old.

[iverglas]

8. all 17-year-olds should have shotguns slung over their shoulders

at all times. And why not pistols in their pants? Why only in their homes? Are 17-year-olds not vulnerable to attack on the street, in the schoolyard, at church ...? What about 12-year-olds, aren't they?


Didn't the children have a "duty to retreat"?

Did anyone ever have a "duty to retreat" in circumstances where leaving the scene would not reasonably foreseeably enabled them to avoid injury or death?

Were these people in danger of injury or death? Could they not have left the home to avoid it? I don't know. Do you?

What was the question again?


Why wasn't that cop's shotgun secured where the 17-year-old child couldn't get to it?

That's an excellent question. A better one, though, is:

How old were the other kids, and if that cop's shotgun wasn't secured where they couldn't get to it, why wasn't it?

What question would you be asking if the 17-year-old had used the shotgun to hold up a convenience store and kill the owner?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Lake_massacre

At noon, Weise retrieved a .22 caliber pistol from his bedroom, and fatally shot his paternal grandfather, Daryl Lussier, Sr.(a Sergeant with the Red Lake Police Department), two times in the head and ten times in the chest as he was sleeping. It is not known how Weise obtained the pistol, but according to his friends, it is believed he may have possessed it for as long as one year. Weise then stole Lussier's two police-issue weapons, a .40 caliber Glock 23 pistol and a Remington 12 gauge pump-action shotgun. He then fatally shot Michelle Leigh Sigana, Lussier's girlfriend, two times in the head as she was carrying laundry up the stairs.

And we all know what happened next.

I know what questions I asked:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3344729&mesg_id=3345234

iverglas
Thu Mar-24-05 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
20. gun lust

The eminently preventable death of people -- yes, people who don't particularly matter -- by firearm is not something that the NRA and its Republican puppets and the media who dance to their tune want to talk about.

What would be the focus of a media circus about Red Lake? It doesn't seem to have the more universally-appealing elements of lumpen teen angst that Columbine had; there were very personal factors at the root of the Red Lake incident it appears. So: "Let's have laws requiring people who own firearms to KEEP THEM THE HELL AWAY FROM CHILDREN?" I don't think so.

A 16-yr-old with access to firearms murdered a bunch of people.

A 17-yr-old with access to a firearm waved it at an unarmed druggie burglar who ran away.

In which case would the outcome almost certainly have been different absent firearms?

I wonder ...

[gejohnston]

13. we can wonder all we want.

What if the burglar was not just a druggie but a serial killer?

I got my first rifle at eight and pistol at 16, so what's your point?

[Atypical Liberal]

17. As long as good people have access to them,

I'll live with the bad people having them, too.

Far better for everyone, good and bad, to have the opportunity to be armed than for good people to not have the opportunity. Because there will always be bad people willing to do bad things to other people.

[Hoopla Phil]

9. "Opana"? Never herd of it before. Oh, and the 17 year old did just fine.

More than old enough to safely handle a firearm.

[SteveM]

11. It does sound like an old brand of toothpaste...

Yes, I knew how to use a variety of weapons well before 17.

[Common Sense Party]

12. I hadn't heard of Opana either.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go to and the money they will waste to get things to put into their bodies.

[Glassunion]

14. You know you are getting old when...

You've never heard of a drug the kids are taking now a days.

[Common Sense Party]

15. Them durn whippersnappers!

Stay off of my lawn and stay outta my house!

Go git yer gol durned Opanananana somewheres else!

[Glassunion]

16. Really. Whatever happened to growing your own pot?

[YllwFvr]

20. The problem here is "bath salts"

And its causing big problems. But now I have to look up opana in case I run into it :/
Damn good job for the officers son. If be taking him out for some father son bonding

[ileus]

18. Good job kid...remember family and home come before all others and any cost.

[Common Sense Party]

19. Oh, you're just being patriarchal and...um...like, sexist and neanderthal.

Know what I mean, eh?