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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:05 AM
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Machine pistol (MAC-10) found in San Diego Children's Pool
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/08/11/state/n072324D95.DTL

San Diego police say a machine pistol and several rounds of ammunition have been found in Children's Pool beach in La Jolla.

Detective Gary Hassen told the San Diego Union-Tribune ( http://bit.ly/oTH0hQ) that someone walking along the seawall on Tuesday spotted the high-powered MAC-10 in about 2 to 3 feet of water and notified a lifeguard.

Hassen says a police diver recovered the unloaded weapon and 44 assorted bullets of different calibers.

The detective says it does not appear the gun had been in the water very long.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:17 AM
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1. What a shameful way to treat a great weapon!
Someone needs an NRA training class.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:16 PM
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16. 'You think da thug would take a class?
BTW, who said this was a "great weapon?"
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:39 PM
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20.  Our tunnel rats loved the one I "liberated" from a passing Green Beanie unit.
With the suppressor attached it was a little long, but the suppressor saved a lot of hearing problems. And the rate of fire, in a close area, was tremendous!

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:19 AM
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2. Still a higher chance of kids drowning. nt
nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:52 AM
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5. OFFS
.........
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:37 AM
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3. Spin
High power
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:43 AM
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4. Well, they do make good trot line sinkers. nt
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:46 PM
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15. We always used weight bench plates.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 05:19 PM by ileus
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:57 AM
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6. They got a police DIVER to recover it from less than 3 ft of water?
What is wrong with having a cop wade out and pick it up?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:33 PM
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7. The diver probably said the same thing -
"You called me out for THIS? Wassamatta? Afraid of getting your feet wet?"
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:27 PM
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27. I bet that diver was getting union scale a nsd a 4 hour minimum
he was probably smilin' his ass off
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:22 AM
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40. Your tax $ at work! ;) n/t
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:36 PM
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11. Then they called out CSU to dust the water for prints. nt
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:49 PM
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8. Good -- toss them all into swimming pools.
A little temporarily increased chances of shooting deaths at the pools would be more than offset by getting rid of the guns in the long term. ;-)

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:13 PM
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:17 PM
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17. umm
if it is in the water, it is not likely to fire. If it is unloaded it will not fire, so the chances of shooting deaths would be zero. But the pile may decrease drownings.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:29 PM
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10. omg they were right
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 02:30 PM by iverglas
Swimming pools are more dangerous to kids than ... uh ... guns ...




... 10 words ... one typo ...
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:43 PM
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12. If it is a full auto Mac 10 these things I know
it is illegal in California
I seriously doubt it was registered to anyone
no one bought it at Wal Mart.
that with the ammo of various calibers, I am guessing it is a ditched crime gun.

What is your point?
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:03 PM
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13. Note that this is NOT a swimming pool.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 04:03 PM by Atypical Liberal
This is the Pacific Ocean. Someone threw a gun (and various ammunition) into the ocean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Pool_Beach
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:19 PM
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18. at least that explains the call for a
diver.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:44 PM
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28. Sounds like a frightening escalation in the decade-long battle between the
seals and the children. If the seals now have machine pistols, I sure hope those Fisher-Price anti-pinniped homing torpedoes arrive soon. For the children, don't ya know... :scared:
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:45 PM
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14. That's no way to treat a classic firearm....another gun victimized
Hopefully it can get back into the hands of it's rightful owner if it was registered.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:21 PM
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19. Strange report (mostly unreadable due to self-advertisement):


"Hassen says a police diver recovered the unloaded weapon and 44 assorted bullets of different calibers."

Maybe that's why they threw it away -- using several calibers would have jammed it up. I sure wouldn't want to shoot it.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:31 PM
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21. More likely....
This is an ocean beach. I'm sure in addition to the gun and various ammunition bits, they probably turned up a bunch of beer cans as well.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:50 PM
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22. a mac 10 is not a "high power wepon"
Its not even intermediate powered... it shoots a pistol round.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 04:16 AM
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23. a 9mm.....
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:06 AM
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24. Natively, the mac 10 was intended to shoot the .45acp...
but it also, less frequently, came in 9mm and kits exist to convert any MAC 10 to 9mm, 45acp, or 22lr. Unfortunately it's younger brother, the Mac 11/9, only came in 9mm so it can only be converted to .22lr with aftermarket parts. However, the advantage of not being the size/weight of a brick and shooting ammo twice as expensive makes the the tradeoff worth it.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:17 AM
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25. Just fyi, children do not swim in "Children's Pool",
Harbor seals do. It is the home of many seals, nobody swims there. The seawall is on the left side of this pic, it is used by many visitors to watch the seals. You can see the seals on the beach.

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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 08:54 PM
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34. It was still 2-3 feet of water, which still leaves me wondering about the need for a diver.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:31 AM
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36. It was likely
deemed a crime scene..photos..they probably wouldn't have found the ammo without goggles. There is a beach patrol station at the beginning of the seawall, they keep a close eye on the seals.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:26 PM
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43. OK, that makes sense. I'm letting go of any feelings of weirdness about the diver.
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gravity556 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 09:31 AM
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44. Crap! This means that the local wildlife
has finally mastered machining and automatic weapons. I've long been without much pity for pinnipeds and cetaceans, figuring that, well, they've had just as much time as we have to figure out firearms and RPGs... Looks like the next season of Whale Wars will be worth watching for more than just Paul Watson's histrionics.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 04:21 PM
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26. Wow, misleading titles, Exhibit Fuckin' A.
Perpetuated by our favorite banner-wannabe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DEG6BWgp0

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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 07:58 AM
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29. You make it sound like you're surprised NT
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 08:53 AM
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30. Shocked, actually... 8>) n/t
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:01 PM
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31. And the other wannabes piped right in without researching what they spoke of.
I'm shocked as well... :P
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:26 PM
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32. and who is surprised at your own vilely false allegation?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/08/11/state/n072324D95.DTL

-- Link posted in OP.


"Machine pistol found in San Diego Children's Pool"

-- Headline of newspaper article found at that link.


"San Diego police say a machine pistol and several rounds of ammunition have been found in Children's Pool beach in La Jolla."

-- First paragraph of article, quoted in OP.


When one reads the headline, one notices that the words "pistol" and "found" are not capitalized, while the words "Children's Pool" are. This suggests that "Children's Pool" is a proper noun, a title, the name of a beach.

I missed it myself, I was just too anxious to be facetious.

By this point, I don't know how you could possibly have missed it.

So I can only think of a couple of words to use to characterize your 100% false allegation that ANYONE was either being misleading or "perpetuating" any misleading by anyone else.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:17 PM
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33. Well, seeing as how I've never been to San Fran, except to change planes at the airport...
and am thus completely unfamiliar with the city except that they have some sort of bridge there... and given the demonstrated incompetence of modern mass media...

Draw your own conclusions.

Lime or Cherry?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:39 PM
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35. What and where is this "San Fran" you speak of? Surely you're not using that
abomination to refer to The City ... are you? :mad:

(Not that knowledge of SF would help here; the OP is about San Diego. :) )
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:20 AM
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39. LOL, people from Frisco are so uptight about the names of cities.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 10:20 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
:rofl:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:32 PM
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42. Smartass!
:)
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:52 AM
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41. Massive Head-Desk for me.....
My bad....
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:36 AM
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37. I drove through San Fran on my way to the DLI . NT
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:49 AM
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38. Just another drive-by news reporting
you should apply for a job with Fox news.
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