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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:21 AM
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GUNS IN THE NEWS--March 15, 2004
As CO Liberal sez:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:25 AM
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1. 9 Dead, 10 Coffins Found in Fresno Home
"FRESNO, Calif. - A man suspected of murdering nine of his family members apparently was involved in polygamy and incest, fathering two of the victims with his own daughters, police said Saturday.
The bodies of six females and three males, ages 1 to 24, were found tangled in the back room of in Marcus Wesson's home Friday. Fresno's largest mass murder ever quadrupled its homicides for the year in a single night and disturbed officers so much that some immediately needed counseling.
Wesson, 57, has fathered children with at least four women, two of whom are his own daughters, said Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer.
A neighbor, Chris Tognazzini, said he heard two gunshots moments before police arrived."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040314/ap_on_re_us/fresno_slayings_16
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:28 AM
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2. So were they killed with a gun?
Though I havent checked the news yet this morning there hasnet been any mention on how they were killed.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:38 AM
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3. They interviewed Fresno Chief
On "Today." Asking if they were shot while the police were outside. Blame the PD, not the criminal. Typical.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:41 AM
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4. 9 Siblings Dead, Son Says He Hopes Father Isn't Guilty
"The first two women, interviewed later by the police, said they had left their children in Mr. Wesson's care, but returned to the house Friday to take them back and had been unsuccessful, officials said.
Mr. Wesson, 57, initially told the officers that he would release the children, but then ran into a bedroom and locked the door. After the women said Mr. Wesson might have a gun, police negotiators and SWAT officers were called in. After an hourlong standoff, he surrendered."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/15/national/15FRES.html?ex=1080018000&en=580cdbda1fb2169f&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVER

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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:45 AM
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6. I'd kinda hope that my siblings...
Hadn't been murdered.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:36 AM
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8. Some folks seem most concerned that guns aren't being slandered
than anything else...

And Koresh forbid anyone get a "gun porn" detail not exactly right!
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:30 PM
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31. And some would rather...
That no one had been murdered.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:21 AM
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14. From The Article
A neighbor, Chris Tognazzini, said he heard two gunshots moments before police arrived.

Sounds like they were killed with a gun to me....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:06 PM
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21. At least 6 died of gunshot wounds in Fresno slayings
"FRESNO, Calif. -- A makeshift memorial of stuffed animals, balloons and flowers grew on the sidewalk in front of a home where a man is accused of killing nine of his family members, some that police said may have been the product of incest with his own daughters.
Autopsies on six of the victims showed each died of at least one gunshot wound, Patricia Bresett, assistant to the Fresno county coroner, said Monday. She said the other autopsies were expected to be completed later in the day.
It is the largest mass killing ever in Fresno, a city of 440,000 people about 190 miles southeast of San Francisco.
Marcus Wesson, 57, emerged blood-covered from his home Friday night after police were called there because of a child custody dispute. In a back room, police found a tangle of bodies and clothing, a sight so gruesome it reduced some veteran officers to tears."

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0304/15apfresno.html
 
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:57 PM
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24. So In Other Words.....
...the pro-gunners can forget about this story being unrelated to guns.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:25 PM
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26. Yup: "Fresno Family Shot, With No Sign of Struggle"
"It appears that all nine members of a Fresno family found dead Friday were shot, and there was no sign of a struggle, investigators say.
The apparent father of the victims, Marcus Wesson, was being held on a bail of $9 million. Investigators think that Wesson may have been the grandfather of some of the children, as well, due to incest. Police also were trying to figure out if the oldest female victim assisted in the murders before killing herself."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kpix/20040315/lo_kpix/9460
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:42 AM
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5. Three Shot Dead, One Wounded Near Dallas
"McKINNEY, Texas - Officers found three people dead and a fourth injured at a home in this Dallas suburb, all with gunshot wounds to the head, police said Saturday.
Police were called after people who knew the victims discovered the bloody scene Friday night. Authorities did not yet have a suspect.
Rosa Barbosa, 46; Mark Barbosa, 25; and Austin York, 18, were pronounced dead at the scene late Friday, Capt. Robert Dean said.
Matthew Self, 17, was taken by medical helicopter to Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas. He was in critical condition, Dean said. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040313/ap_on_re_us/four_shot_3
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:33 AM
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7. N.C. A&T Football Player Shot to Death
"BENSON, N.C. - A North Carolina A&T football player was shot to death early Saturday at a nightclub.
Herbert Dixon III, a 20-year-old sophomore linebacker from Clinton, died outside the D&L Nightclub, said Tammy Amaon, spokeswoman for the Johnston County Sheriff's Office. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040314/ap_on_sp_co_ne/fbc_nc_a_t_player_shot_1
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:48 AM
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9. Sheriff's Deputy Killed During Shooting (TN)
"LENOIR CITY, Tenn. - Scores of officers surrounded a lakeside home Saturday in a standoff with a heavily armed teenager who killed a sheriff's deputy and kept officers at bay for more than a day.
The 16-year-old had semiautomatic weapons with multiple 30-round magazines and fired on officers as they approached, said Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison.
"At this point, the only response we see out of him is when he starts shooting at officers he sees," Hutchison said. "We hope he will come to some realization that he needs to come out and he needs to surrender." "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040313/ap_on_re_us/deputy_killed_9
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:02 AM
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10. Two Dead in Michigan College Shooting
"BATTLE CREEK, Mich. - A policeman who pulled over a car near a community college Saturday morning found the two passengers shot to death and the driver seriously injured.
The officer spotted the car driving erratically near Kellogg Community College and the wounded driver pulled into a circular drive at the school, police Cmdr. Jackie Hampton said.
Police said it was unclear where the shooting took place. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040314/ap_on_re_us/michigan_shooting_4
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:38 AM
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11. Spring-Breaker Shot In West Palm Beach
"Police said the college student was driving near 5th Street and Division Avenue when gunshots hit his Camaro. One of the shots went through the exterior of the car and hit him in the leg. The man was able to drive his car to the West Palm Beach Police Department.
Detectives are investigating the possibility that two different weapons were used in the shooting, a handgun and a rifle. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040315/lo_wpbf/2051211
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:46 AM
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12. 'Vampire Slayer' Shoots Man In Face (FL)
"Police in Jacksonville, Fla., arrested a man who believed he was a 'vampire slayer' after he allegedly shot his Domino's Pizza co-worker twice in the face because he thought he was a vampire, according to Local 6 News.
Timothy White, 35, who was described by friends as a born-again Christian with an unusual preoccupation with zombies and vampires, was arrested outside of a church after Friday's shooting.
Witnesses said he walked into the pizza shop on Normandy Boulevard and allegedly said David Harrison looked like a vampire. He then allegedly shot Harrison in the face and stomach.
Police said White was heavily armed with a knife, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols when he was taken into custody. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040315/lo_wkmg/2051410
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:22 AM
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15. I Thought Vampire Slayers Used Wooden Stakes
At least that's what Buffy would have used....

:shrug:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:31 AM
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16. It's the gun nuts' "modern world"
You know, where stroke victims with impaired vision can just start blasting away when they feel threatened by anything...and people with delusions about vampires can buy guns at gun shows without a background check of any sdort....
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:07 PM
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22. I don't think Tom Monoghan...
...would be very happy having an envoy of Satan working for him.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:08 AM
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13. Argument in Fort Worth home leads to woman's fatal shooting
"FORT WORTH - An argument between a couple sparked a shooting at a residence on Avenue C that killed a woman and sent a suspect to jail Saturday, police documents show.
Karen Hutchenson, 34, died from a single gunshot wound to the head, according to records from the Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office. The death was ruled a homicide.
Raymond Clark, 30, was arrested on suspicion of murder and remained in the Mansfield Jail on Sunday, with bail set at $50,000. Information about bail was unavailable. The amount of bond on the charge was unavailable."

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/8190352.htm
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:39 AM
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17. Huntington police officer dies after traffic stop shooting (TX)
"HOUSTON - An East Texas police officer who was shot in the face and back during a traffic stop over the weekend died Sunday night at Houston's Memorial Hermann Hospital.
Huntington police officer John Logan, 33, was critically wounded Saturday during a traffic stop in Angelina County.
Logan died shortly before 7 p.m. Sunday, hospital spokesman David Mendel said Monday.
The man believed responsible for the shooting, Sashi Roberts, 24, fled police and was later found at a mobile home in Nacogdoches. After a two-hour standoff, Roberts shot himself. He was found in a bedroom within the mobile home with a suicide note nearby, said Nacogdoches County Sheriff Thomas Kerss."

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/8191324.htm
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:17 PM
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18. Three men killed in separate shootings (MD)
"Three men were killed in separate shootings in Baltimore over five hours yesterday, pushing the city's homicide total for the year to 55, police said.
The first shooting occurred about 10 a.m. when a gunman walked into a Northwest Baltimore carryout restaurant and opened fire, hitting two male customers, police said.
Two-and-a-half hours later, a second man was killed about a mile away. Police said that two men wearing ski masks approached a man in the 4200 block of Reisterstown Road and that at least one of them fired a handgun.
About 3 p.m., a man sitting on the steps of a rowhouse in the 1200 block of N. Bond St. in East Baltimore was shot twice in the head, police said. The unidentified man died at the scene. "

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/yahoo/bal-md.slay13mar13,0,566784.story?coll=bal-newsaol-headlines
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:07 PM
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19. Video May Hold Clue To Fatal Bowling Alley Shooting (MI)
"Video surveillance footage reportedly holds the key to a deadly shooting inside a Warren bowling alley early Sunday morning.
A 20-year-old Detroit man was shot around 2 a.m. at the front entrance of Bronco Lanes on Ryan Road, according to Warren police. He was transported to St. John Oakland Hospital where he was pronounced dead.
Investigators have determined from the surveillance video that the two men were wrestling each other when the shooter backed away, pulled out a handgun and fired one shot, according to a report in The Macomb Daily. The shooter then reportedly fled the scene in the SUV. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040315/lo_wdiv/2051890
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:18 PM
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20. Three dead in shooting at Roswell apartment (GA)
"Roswell police Monday were investigating a multiple shooting at an apartment complex off Holcomb Bridge Road. 
Four people were shot before 11:30 a.m. at the Concepts 21 complex on Old Holcomb Bridge Road, said Roswell police Sgt. James McGee.
McGee said the victims were shot during a gun battle with "multiple suspects" inside a second-floor apartment.
Three died at the scene, and the fourth was taken to North Fulton Regional Hospital, in critical condition with multiple gunshot wounds, McGee said."

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/0304/15roswellshooting.html
 
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:50 PM
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23. Police probe airport robbery (GA)
"A parking lot manager at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was shot, abducted and robbed of the evening's receipts overnight, police said.
Arif Najied, 25, of Union City, was driving on an airport access road shortly before 2 a.m. Monday when the three suspects, who were in a red Chevrolet 1500 pickup truck, "parked in the roadway so he could not pass," said Atlanta police Sgt. Kevin Iosty.
Iosty said one of the suspects shot Najied in the left leg. 
"After they shot him, they started roughing him up," Iosty said. "They told him that they had no intention of killing him, and they just wanted the money that he had." "

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/atlanta/0304/15airportrobbery.html
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:23 PM
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25. 2 Dead, 2 Wounded In 'Elements' Shooting (CA)
"Two people were killed and two others wounded in shooting outside a Sacramento nightclub over the weekend.
The shooting happened at about 1:40 a.m. Saturday at Elements at 15th and H streets in the downtown area. Officers descended on the area and found two men in their 20s shot to death.
"They were able to locate one victim down by the alley way ... fire attended to that victim ... and then located another victim at 15th and I," Sacramento Police Department Lt. Keith Jensen said.
Two other victims were found with gunshot wounds to the arms and legs. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040315/lo_kcra/2051981
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:39 PM
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27. Burglars Posing As Police Invade Home, Terrorize Family
"HOUSTON -- Burglars posing as police burst into a northwest Houston home early Monday morning, tying up and terrorizing the family inside, News2Houston reported.
The incident happened in the 4000 block of Mayfield near Lincoln around 1:30 a.m.
The home invaders identified themselves as police, and they seemed to know what they were after -- guns in the bedroom safe.
Officials said the robbers beat the code to the safe out of the 19-year-old man's mother. "

http://www.click2houston.com/news/2922198/detail.html

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:51 PM
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28. WISCONSIN BRIEFING: MILWAUKEE TWO TEENS DIE IN SHOOTING
"Shots fired at two pickup trucks killed two teens and wounded three others on their way to a party Sunday, police said.
Milwaukee police were looking for suspects in the shooting, which occurred at 12:15 a.m. on the city's south side.
A 15-year-old boy and an 18-year-old man were killed, Capt. Darlene Jenkins said.
Three other teens were hospitalized in stable condition, she said.
Police were looking for at least one suspect who investigators believe fired the shots from the sidewalk, Jenkins said. Police were still investigating the shooting and weren't sure whether it was random."

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/states/wisconsin/8187584.htm
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:16 PM
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29. Police fatally shoot armed woman who threatened family (PA)
Another family made safer by guns...

"When officers arrived at a Logan rowhouse, they found the home Police yesterday shot and killed a Logan woman who had threatened family members and set a small fire inside her house, then brandished a handgun at officers responding to the scene.
Police said the confrontation outside a rowhouse on the 5200 block of North 10th Street was immediately preceded by a call made to the City Hall switchboard about 12:15 p.m. The caller, Betty Hodoe, told the operator that she was going to kill everyone in her house.
When police arrived moments later, the house was on fire, and Hodoe was threatening family members inside with a 9mm pistol, authorities said."

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/8174995.htm
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:53 PM
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30. Police Respond To Double Shooting At Workplace (FL)
"North Miami Beach police responded to a professional building where they say two people were shot around 4:30 p.m.
The building at 1990 N.E. 163rd St. houses several offices and businesses. There is no word yet as to the specific location of the shooting. Police said a man and a woman were both killed.
Early reports are that the shooting happened on the second floor. Employees in the building are being asked to show police identification and then evacuate the building. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040315/lo_wplg/2052746
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