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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 12:20 AM
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Justice Dept launches campaign to solve murder of Thomas C. Wales, prosecutor/gun control advocate
Thomas C. Wales, a former federal prosecutor, was murdered in October 2001. I've never heard about him before reading the NY Times article "New Push for Help in Solving a Prosecutor’s 2001 Murder":

Law enforcement officials say they have investigated several suspects, pursued more than 15,000 leads and meticulously traced and tested copies of a rare type of gun barrel used in the shooting. But they still have not solved the crime. A $1 million reward remains in place.

Investigators have not publicly identified a motive for the killing. If Mr. Wales, who was an assistant United States attorney, was killed in retaliation for his work, he would be the first federal prosecutor killed in the line of duty. He also was president of a group that campaigned against gun violence.

“Although this case remains unsolved and Tom’s killer remains unknown, our resolve to uncover the truth and to help Tom’s family, friends and colleagues and neighbors find the answers and find the closure that they deserve, that has never been stronger,” Mr. Holder said.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 12:41 AM
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1. I wonder if there is any connection between his gun control efforts
and the fast and furious crowd?
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 01:38 AM
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2. 10 years is a heck of a cold case. I wonder why the sudden/recent push to close such an old case?
Hopefully, someday, his family can know the truth.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 02:11 AM
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3. It's about time! n/t
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:16 AM
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4. Does anyone remember?
This the case where an after market barrel was used in a Makarov pistol. The ATF and FBI obtained the sales records of the company and tracked down and tested every barrel they could find. They spent years trying to force a gun collector to say he sold a pistol to an airline pilot they remain convinced committed the crime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/15/us/15murder.html

SEATTLE, Nov. 14 — A failed polygraph test by a gun collector. Handwriting samples from a chief suspect. A daughter’s plea for the public’s help. These three strands have breathed new life into the stalled five-year investigation of a federal prosecutor’s killing here.

The prosecutor, Thomas C. Wales, 49, an assistant United States attorney, was shot to death on Oct. 11, 2001, as he sat typing at his computer in his basement. Someone standing in Mr. Wales’s secluded backyard fired through a window, hitting him in the neck and torso, investigators have said. A neighbor told reporters at the time that she had seen a man stride from the scene, climb into his car and speed away.

No one has been charged with the crime, which the authorities say appears to have been premeditated because of its precision and the paltry evidence left behind. If Mr. Wales was murdered in retaliation for his work, he would be the first federal prosecutor killed in the line of duty.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, which has offered a $1 million reward for information leading to a conviction, says it has interviewed about 4,000 people and followed 10,000 leads in 50 states and several Eastern European countries.

But there was a strong sense in Seattle that the case was stuck. The authorities used the fifth anniversary of the shooting to raise the profile of the investigation and even urged Mr. Wales’s son and daughter to ask the public for help in solving the crime.

“I wholly encourage anyone who has information to come forward, to be brave, and to provide a measure of justice to the system,” his daughter, Amy Wales, said in a recent interview in a coffee shop near her father’s house. At 27, she looks prematurely worn by what she calls his “shattering” death.

Robert Geeslin, the F.B.I. agent who is supervising the investigation, said, “This is not a cold case.”

Forensic tests conducted soon after the killing identified the weapon as an inexpensive semiautomatic Makarov handgun, one of millions produced in Soviet-bloc countries and China, Agent Geeslin said. The gun had been refitted with an American-made stainless-steel replacement barrel, one of 3,600 sold in the United States.

Since then, the F.B.I. has focused on its “Makarov project,” a search for these silver-colored barrels. The bureau has located about 1,800 of them, Agent Geeslin said.

One person on the Makarov list is a gun collector, Albert Kwan, who lives in a Seattle suburb, Bellevue. Mr. Kwan’s lawyer, Joseph Conte of Washington, D.C., said that the F.B.I. apparently thought Mr. Kwan bought two gun barrels a decade ago, but that Mr. Kwan remembered buying only one. Mr. Kwan’s collection of several hundred weapons includes eight Makarov pistols, Mr. Conte said.

In September, the United States Attorney’s office here indicted Mr. Kwan on one count of illegal possession of a machine gun. Mr. Conte said the agency told him that it would consider dropping the charge if Mr. Kwan testified before a grand jury investigating Mr. Wales’s killing and passed a polygraph test.

Mr. Kwan took the polygraph last week, his lawyer said, adding that the government told him his client had failed two questions, whether he bought two gun barrels and where the second one is.

“My interpretation is that he didn’t give the government the answers they wanted,” Mr. Conte said.

Before the polygraph, F.B.I. officials did not characterize Mr. Kwan as someone who was likely to provide a major break in the case. This week, the F.B.I. would not comment about Mr. Kwan or the polygraph results. Bill Redkey, an assistant United States attorney here, said Mr. Kwan was likely to go to trial on the machine-gun charge in March.

Mr. Conte said the F.B.I. erroneously thought Mr. Kwan might have provided a gun barrel to a chief suspect, a commercial airline pilot. Mr. Wales indicted the pilot and three business partners on conspiracy and fraud charges in 2000.

In 2001, the government dismissed the charges against the pilot and his partners after their company pleaded guilty to federal criminal violations related to the sale of a military helicopter and paid a fine.

Soon after, the pilot sued the government to recoup his legal fees, saying he was the victim of a “bad faith” prosecution. Four months later, Mr. Wales was killed. The pilot’s lawsuit was ultimately dismissed.

The F.B.I. will not discuss the pilot. His lawyer, Larry Setchell, however, has said the F.B.I. had searched his client’s homes and vehicles and confiscated clothing and shoes.

Mr. Setchell confirmed a report that first appeared in The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, that the pilot had agreed to provide handwriting samples to prove he was not the author of a mysterious letter related to the killing. In the letter, sent last January from Las Vegas to the F.B.I.’s downtown Seattle office, someone using the name “Gidget” claimed to have been hired by a “nice talking lady” to kill Mr. Wales.

Mr. Setchell has compared the pilot to Richard Jewell, the security guard whom the F.B.I. erroneously accused of setting off a bomb at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996.


Government dismisses charge against gun owner

An interesting aside, it's been a convoluted case. The feds have been trying to pin something Albert Kwan for years, because he acted to preserve his own legal interests instead of assisting the government with theirs.

http://www.crimefilenews.com/2006/10/our-federal-law-enforcement-officers-at.html

Reading this story you’d think it could have only come from the files of the Gestapo or KGB. It all began with the murder of Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Wales, a leader of the gun ban movement in Seattle, October 11, 2001.

Wales was shot in the basement of his home in Seattle's Queen Anne Hill neighborhood on Oct. 11, 2001. Allegedly, ballistics tests revealed the murder weapon was to be a Makarov pistol outfitted with an after-market replacement barrel. The FBI went on a quest looking for every one of owners of the known 3,500 barrels ever made.

That quest brought the FBI to Belleview, WA gun collector Albert Kwan’s home. The bureau agents wanted to borrow and test fire Kwan’s Makarov pistol they believed was outfitted with an after-market replacement barrel. Kwan refused the request because the gun was new and unfired. Kwan’s reasoning was that this would destroy the value of his property.

The bureau agents really fixed Kwan for his refusal. They obtained a search warrant, kicked his door down and seized every firearm in his home. Kwan legally owned 100 machine guns along with some run of the mill semi-automatic firearms. The Agents took one of Kwan's rifles, a Springfield, semi-automatic M-14 copy, remanufactured the receiver, and installed new parts turning it to a machine gun! Since that Springfield was not registered as a machine gun the agents charged Kwan for the federal felony under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Now that's what you call, being creative!

What the agents really wanted was to “create” a witness to testify against another suspect they're trying to implicate in the Wales murder. Since they have no other evidence, the FBI set out to destroy Kwan’s life.

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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 01:52 PM
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5. This is a strange case...
Why would someone use a Makarov, which aren't all that common here? I can understand changing the barrel, but new Makarov barrels are even rarer, as your links point out. There are much more common guns like Glocks, with plenty of replacement barrels for sale that the FBI could never trace.

It's almost as if someone was sending some sort of message by using the Makarov to kill Wales. Maybe he regarded Wales as a Communist, and was using a Communist weapon to kill someone he regarded as a Communist. :shrug:

And no I didn't remember, I never even heard of the case.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:17 PM
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6. Makarov circa 2001
Edited on Thu Sep-29-11 04:21 PM by one-eyed fat man
The Makarov pistol circa 2001 was a curio and relic as it used a 9x18 cartridge which at the time was not generally available in the West. The Soviet cartridge is different from the 9x18 Ultra the West German police used for a while in the 1970's.

The replacement barrels were in .380 aka 9mm Kurz or 9x17 which has been readily available in the US since about 1903. After Wolf, Sellier & Bellot, and Prvi Partizan began exporting Makarov ammunition to the US the reason and the market for .380 barrels dried up.

The .380 develops only 254 joules of energy while the 9mm Makarov is marginally better 293 joules. Compared to 570 joules energy for NATO standard 9mm Parabellum

From a hit man's perspective, the weapon is a disposable item. The Makarov fits the Soviet design philosophy, cheap, serviceable, and suitable for use by conscript soldiers. It would not be far fetched to infer that who ever assassinated Mr. Wales intended for the murder weapon to be melted down, dumped in the ocean or otherwise destroyed. In that regard, a 100 dollar Cold War relic would serve as well as a 600 dollar Glock or even 5,000 dollar Olympic grade target pistol.

If indeed it had anything to do with the US Attorney's anti-gun activism, the final irony would have been to turn the weapon in to one of those "no questions asked" gun buy backs gun control advocates are particularly fond of holding. A Makarov would be considered a junky enough gun no cop would be tempted to save it from the smelter. Nothing like have the police unwittingly ensure the evidence will never be found by turning it into Buick bumpers. Who knows, it might even be part of this anti-gun sculpture reputedly made from guns of such a buy back.

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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 11:45 PM
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7. Pretty Good Piece From 2007 On The Wales Murder
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/06/070806fa_fact_toobin

The fates seemed to conspire against the investigation. Murder was just one month after 9/11, the US Attorney's Office recused itself, and federal LE didn't really seem to put the manpower into it that they might have done for the murder of a federal LEO.

There was an effort to jump start the investigation after 5 years, so perhaps they are thinking the same for the 10 years anniversary.

The person who did it might now start talking about it. "Ha-Ha! Ten years and I got away with it!" That sort of thing.

It sounds like it's pretty cold. Perhaps the FBI Behavioral Unit says to stir it up with publicity, and maybe get the killer boasting about it.
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