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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:52 PM
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If you want to see the absurdity of gun control that many here would like to see, look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fC2iu3CTPc

The gun control laws in New Jersey are precisely the kinds of hoops that many hop lops would like to see be universal. Watch this video and see how absurd gun control can really be.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:18 PM
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1. I always suspect such things produced by people who make their living off guns -- as is case here.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:56 PM
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9. I always suspect comments made by people considered to be anti-gun zealots
and those that would like to infringe on my Constitutional rights--as in your case.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:11 PM
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:42 PM
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15. Who here is "make(ing) their living off guns"? n/t
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:06 PM
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18. You're right. The entire State of New Jersey is "making its living off guns!"
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 11:28 AM
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21. I consider myself a participant in democracy
That does not make it biased or disingenuous for me to advocate democracy or the dismantling of those things that impede its practice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:32 PM
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:38 PM
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3. And that "license" would be recognized in every other state right?
So tough shit for New York, Illinois and California, right?
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:43 PM
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6. Yep _ I can drive there, so I can buy/possess/carry any firearm there. nt
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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 06:04 PM
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8. I would love
to be able to legally walk around Manhattan with a gun.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:39 PM
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4. that may be true of you
but not true of Brady and company. Most of the leaders in the gun control movement stated they want prohibition or regulations absurdly unreasonable like NYC, DC and Chicago.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:42 PM
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5. I think I like a gun license like a driver's license.
Answer a few questions, shoot up a few targets to show safe handling...get a license. Then I can decide to buy whatever gun I want anytime I want and carry it anywhere in the nation.

Pretty cool!
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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 06:03 PM
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7. What you fail to understand
is that driving is a PRIVILEGE, granted by the state to those it deems qualified, according to standards and testing set at the discretion of legislators and officers of the state. In contrast, buying, possessing, and carrying a firearm is a RIGHT, an extension of a Natural Right that existed before the founding of this country, officially recognized in the Bill of Rights. It is a fundamental freedom that separates us from most of the rest of the world.

A RIGHT is not something subject to licensure, qualification, taxation, or other types of restriction designed to stifle the free exercise thereof. A black man in Alabama has as much of a RIGHT to carry a handgun with which to defend his own life as any white people, and shouldn't be subjected to some cockamamy "poll tax" scheme like a "gun test". Such a test would probably be designed specifically for black people to fail, just so they could be denied their right to be armed.

Should we have a "voter test" too? How about a "4th Amendment test" when the cops show up at your door, and if you pass it they won't kick your teeth in and enter without a warrant? Maybe a "speedy trials test" that will keep you from being locked up for 5 years waiting for trial?

If not, why is any other RIGHT somehow different?
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:04 PM
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10. IN contrast to NRA spokesperson
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:17 PM
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12. Unrec for obscure insult.
No better than Hoyt's incessant 'toter' insult.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:25 PM
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13. Goose and Gander and all that.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:40 PM
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14. I've taken to using the term "pro-restrictionists"....
as it is accurately descriptive without ascribing any particular motive that may be highly subjective.

That's not to say I don't have sub-catagories ready at hand....
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:08 PM
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19. ...his incessant 'toter" -- or two -- insult. nt
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 10:54 AM
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16. I sure am glad that I live in Florida ...
we have reasonable gun laws in my state.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:55 AM
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17.  The great crime free state of New Jersey ! Where is IS possible to own a Daisey Red Ryder BB gun.
IF you have a permit, if you can pass a NCIS check.

Yes a permit and NCIS check for a Daisey Red Ryder BB gun.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:16 PM
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20. It always amazes me that states that have draconian gun control are often ...
states that have a long reputation as homes of organized crime rings.

I wonder is this is just a coincidence.
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