Why not ban everything but...

[ileus]

single shot 20ga shotguns/pistols???

Think about it.

20ga will work to defend your home ------------ check
20ga will work to harvest small game ------------ check
20ga w/slugs will work for large game ----------- check
20ga could be used to arm a milita ---------- check

Since the single shot 20ga is the only allowed firearm we could allow short barreled shotguns with a pistol grip for conceal carry.

20ga 2.5" barreled pistol for concealed carry --------- check



No killer clips, no mean looking gun militant accessories would be allowed. Almost back to the flintlock days that opponents of semi-autos desire most.


So there you have it....a little something for everyone. :)

Discuss:

[Lucian]

1. After watching "The Walking Dead," I'd rather not ban anything.

Never know when you're going to need your ammo and guns. :)

[rl6214]

3. Agreed

I'm not going anywhere near Georgia without being fully armed.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

34. Was that on C-span?

:evilgrin:

[Nuclear Unicorn]

2. What about personal street defense for the ladies?

Can't really put that in your purse.

[ileus]

7. I think you could get a small framed 20ga pistol.

you could probably get it down to 5" barreled 1911 size. You don't want to be too rude of a toter after all...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

11. 1. How many rounds is that

2. How much power is that?

Not that I carry but for someone like me I'd be so scared I'd need more than 1 shot and I'm so small a big gun would beat me up before I shot anything.

[ileus]

14. 1 shot...after that your wrist would be so hurt you'd not shoot a second time.

Butt....but...butt....this isn't about protecting yourself, this is about protecting others from you. :)

[SteveM]

21. Hell, make it part of your purse, like a "punt gun" was often part of a boat.

No problem! Just squeeze like a bellows with the all-new Omni-direction trigger and hammer-less firing pin! BOOM! That name-brand purse may lose its logo, but think of the shot spread: compacts, keys, lipsticks, odd-job credit cards; hell, forget about shot!

[msongs]

4. protecting ourselves against gun owners is a full time job these days nt

[SteveM]

22. Really? What does it pay? Jeez, I need the work. nt

[ileus]

25. 20 bucks a month and all the ammo you need.

[SteveM]

29. Sounds like a sit-on-butt-with-T.V. job. I'll take it. nt

[ileus]

32. No health insurance...

[Jackpine Radical]

5. I dunno if you have ever fired a shot pistol, but I have.

Back in the early 60's I got my hands on a 28-ga. shot pistol built, I was told, on an old flare pistol frame. It had a big old hammer and a grip at about the angle (but not the shape) of the grip on an old Beasley Colt revolver.

Anyway, touching that thing off was like holding a howitzer in your hand. It was light, so there was plenty of recoil. I shot it twice before selling it to some other maniac. It drew blood both times, when the hammer slammed back into the web between my thumb and index finger.

[ileus]

12. 410 types...

My dad has a 410 derringer, I've shot that little SOB a few times...Not good.

[Jackpine Radical]

31. I've seen them & thought about ny experience with the 28 ga.

I figure that little derringer must have a shot cone of about 45º & the recoil would embed the pistol in your forehead or something.

[abogado]

6. Single shot?? No, thankyou...most home invasions involve 2 or more thugs.

:shrug:

[ileus]

8. Chance you gotta take to have a polite society.

[abogado]

10. Ah keeps fergettin'

:silly:

[TheWraith]

9. I'd love a 20 gauge howdah pistol for hiking.

It'd make a superb anti-snake and emergency survival gun while still being easy to carry. The rest of your proposal, not so much.

[tularetom]

15. It's a muzzleloader so it's a bit difficult to reload quickly

But it does pack a punch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbOYwNov8

It's on my christmas wish list but I'll probably be disappointed.

[Scuba]

16. +1

[valerief]

13. Bootstraps. Freedom. Individual. Training. Rights. Me. Me. Me. nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

17. You're against freedom, individuals and rights?

This may come as a shock to you but when I declare I have a right to my body I'm not exerting it so I can have an abortion to save the life of the government, state or community.

It's because it's MY body.

Ditto my freedom of conscience; my political rights; my right to religion, particularly the absence thereof; my right to free speech.


wow

[SteveM]

23. Umm, I'm retired, but I'll take the latter 4 descriptions. Good for YOU, too! nt

[Katya Mullethov]

18. Shifting one foot to the other ..hat in hands and looking at his feet

Permission to speak m'liege .

[ileus]

20. No!

[ileus]

24. Ok fine...go ahead. but tread lightly...

[Katya Mullethov]

26. Thank you ! Thank you , Sir !

Might I be limited to but one , Sir ?


It was to my thinking , if I may so bold as to attempt at doing so , that I'd need at least 5 or 6 of these dainty things dangling from 'round my neck on scraps of silk .

[ileus]

27. Oh no...carry as many as you feel you may need, but only 1 can be loaded at a time.

[Katya Mullethov]

30. Only one ?

Might I braid some match lock fuse in me wild mat of hair then ?

Looking lethal is almost as good as being lethal . And thank you again for allowing this most gracious audience .

[ileus]

38. sorry only one...it's for their safety not yours.

their, being others around you...

[Bosso 63]

19. The Republicans would love to have that issue to run against.

[spin]

28. Interesting idea ...

Let's see just how much stopping power a 20 gauge shotgun has...

http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot22.htm

OK loaded with the right ammo it could do the job of stopping an attacker effectively.

But I would like to have more rounds available. How about a 20 gauge coach gun?





note the pictures shows 12 gauge shotguns

Such a weapon holds only two rounds and can be reloaded rapidly.

One other complaint, How do I conceal a very short shotgun in the Florida heat without it being obvious that I am carrying? Even the Taurus Public Defender in .45/.410 (2.5" chamber) has a length of 9" and weighs 28.2 oz.



Compare that to my carry revolver a S&W Model 642 .38 special. My little snubbie weighs 15 oz. and is only 7" long. I can drop this revolver and its holster into my pants pocket and it is totally concealed.

[ileus]

33. 2 barrels, 2 dangerous....sorry.

[spin]

39. There's just no pleasing you ...

:)

[DissedByBush]

35. 20 gauge pistols are illegal

That would be .615 caliber, too big for our overlords to have us possess.

[gejohnston]

36. darn,

I was hoping to get one in 10 gauge.

[ileus]

37. no under my proposal everything else would be illegal.

Hell I'm even allowing 3" barreled 20ga's